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I am nowhere near their numbers, but I run a boostrapped business that would never be possible if it wasn't for Clojure (and specifically ClojureScript). A whil

by jwr 6y ago

I am nowhere near their numbers, but I run a boostrapped business that would never be possible if it wasn't for Clojure (and specifically ClojureScript). A while ago I decided that I'd be permanently setting aside a percentage of revenue that will go towards sponsoring open-source developers that write and maintain libraries that my project uses. The contributions are very small, but growing steadily. I think what matters mostly is not the contribution size, but the mindset. If every company using open source contributed at least a little, we would have a healthy ecosystem.

mouldysammich 6y ago
That is very cool of you to do, and I'm sure goes well appreciated!
tubbyjr 6y ago
hope to do the same myself some day! And really hope businesses who do benefit and have the means, also support.
ithrow 6y ago
but I run a boostrapped business that would never be possible if it wasn't for Clojure (and specifically ClojureScript). Something doesn't sound right.
yagodragon 6y ago
I'm very curious. Could you explain what is so special about clojurescript and why wouldn't it be possible to build your business with react and typescript?
- jwr 6y ago
  The complexity would have been too much if I didn't have Clojure and ClojureScript. They let me remove a lot of incidental complexity and deal mostly with the problem domain (which is complex enough). You can do anything with any language/technology, it's just a question of how many resources you are willing to dedicate to the task. In my case, as a solo bootstrapper, the resources are very limited. Main advantages: * a single language for both client-side (browser) code and server-side code * a single data representation (maps with namespace-qualified keys), so no conversions necessary * spec which helps validate data in multiple places (such as :pre/:post conditions) * core.async which lets me write asynchronous code both in the JVM and in the browser, same primitives * a library of excellent sequence manipulation functions * transducers, which let me build composable data pipelines * the Rum library which lets me use React as a rendering engine, basically a function of my data * most of my domain code is shared between the browser and the server There is more, but these were what I could come up with immediately. I mostly spend time thinking and working on the problem domain, not writing boilerplate (there is none in Clojure, really).
  - palerdot 6y ago
    If I may ask, how long have you been working with Clojure? Do you have any resources to recommend to people to get started with Clojure?
    - jwr 6y ago
      I've been using Clojure for about 12 years now. I don't have any specific pointers, but the Clojure web site is a great starting point. There are plenty of talks from conferences, as well as several good books.
    - Heliosmaster 6y ago
      For a practical introduction to Clojure, check this out: https://heliosmaster.github.io/academy/learning-clojure https://heliosmaster.github.io/academy/learning-clojure It's what I used years ago to learn the language.

by jwr 6y ago

mouldysammich 6y ago

That is very cool of you to do, and I'm sure goes well appreciated!

tubbyjr 6y ago

hope to do the same myself some day! And really hope businesses who do benefit and have the means, also support.

ithrow 6y ago

but I run a boostrapped business that would never be possible if it wasn't for Clojure (and specifically ClojureScript). Something doesn't sound right.

yagodragon 6y ago

I'm very curious. Could you explain what is so special about clojurescript and why wouldn't it be possible to build your business with react and typescript?

jwr 6y ago
The complexity would have been too much if I didn't have Clojure and ClojureScript. They let me remove a lot of incidental complexity and deal mostly with the problem domain (which is complex enough). You can do anything with any language/technology, it's just a question of how many resources you are willing to dedicate to the task. In my case, as a solo bootstrapper, the resources are very limited. Main advantages: * a single language for both client-side (browser) code and server-side code * a single data representation (maps with namespace-qualified keys), so no conversions necessary * spec which helps validate data in multiple places (such as :pre/:post conditions) * core.async which lets me write asynchronous code both in the JVM and in the browser, same primitives * a library of excellent sequence manipulation functions * transducers, which let me build composable data pipelines * the Rum library which lets me use React as a rendering engine, basically a function of my data * most of my domain code is shared between the browser and the server There is more, but these were what I could come up with immediately. I mostly spend time thinking and working on the problem domain, not writing boilerplate (there is none in Clojure, really).
- palerdot 6y ago
  If I may ask, how long have you been working with Clojure? Do you have any resources to recommend to people to get started with Clojure?
  - jwr 6y ago
    I've been using Clojure for about 12 years now. I don't have any specific pointers, but the Clojure web site is a great starting point. There are plenty of talks from conferences, as well as several good books.
  - Heliosmaster 6y ago
    For a practical introduction to Clojure, check this out: https://heliosmaster.github.io/academy/learning-clojure https://heliosmaster.github.io/academy/learning-clojure It's what I used years ago to learn the language.