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Overall I agree, and you write a good comment, but: > And the reality is most driver, even those slightly below average are basically good drivers. Made me la

Overall I agree, and you write a good comment, but: > And the reality is most driver, even those slightly below average are basically good drivers. Made me laugh out loud. Not even necessarily because it isn't true (though I'd tend to disagree), but just because I'm the kind of person who constantly complains about shit drivers. Thanks for the laugh, lol.

Der_Einzige 6y ago
I get pissed off about trash drivers too all the time, but you have to be realistic. These bad drivers are NOT the norm. You will pass many hundreds of cars on a 1 hour drive. You do not mentally file in "oh look at that random car with the good driver in it" the same way that you mentally file "yet ANOTHER bummwer driver not using their turn signals!" on your commute. People who are "slightly below average" basically are good drivers, especially since this class includes a significant proportion of soccer moms.
- lovegoblin 6y ago
  > especially since this class includes a significant proportion of soccer moms. What's the relevance here, exactly?
- eyelidlessness 6y ago
  I’m disappointed this is grey at my viewing time. This is spot on, and speaks to a common (confirmation) cognitive bias so commonly cited here I’d think it would be recognized.
dragonsky 6y ago
When you consider the complexity of the act of driving I'd say a majority of people driving are pretty good drivers, the alternative would be a significant accident rate resulting in impassable roads.
- sushisource 6y ago
  I mean you're not wrong, but you could say the same thing about breathing or walking. They're complicated on some level, but we do them just fine. To me this is really a point about just how good the interface of wheel/pedals is, that any moron off the street can be taught to drive in a matter of hours.
  - tartoran 6y ago
    Just because walking is easy to us doesn’t mean walking is an easy feat. Best robots barely come close to mimicking humans. And yes, humans are quite good at walking. Yes, any moron can learn the basics of driving in a couple of hours but they’re far from average or good drivers, it takes a bit more than that to become an average driver and there are still some factors at play which might influence that: spatial ability, reflexes, attention span, how one handles stressful situations. But a moron can be a good driver without being smart about other things or having a good education

Der_Einzige 6y ago

I get pissed off about trash drivers too all the time, but you have to be realistic. These bad drivers are NOT the norm. You will pass many hundreds of cars on a 1 hour drive. You do not mentally file in "oh look at that random car with the good driver in it" the same way that you mentally file "yet ANOTHER bummwer driver not using their turn signals!" on your commute. People who are "slightly below average" basically are good drivers, especially since this class includes a significant proportion of soccer moms.

lovegoblin 6y ago
> especially since this class includes a significant proportion of soccer moms. What's the relevance here, exactly?
eyelidlessness 6y ago
I’m disappointed this is grey at my viewing time. This is spot on, and speaks to a common (confirmation) cognitive bias so commonly cited here I’d think it would be recognized.

dragonsky 6y ago

When you consider the complexity of the act of driving I'd say a majority of people driving are pretty good drivers, the alternative would be a significant accident rate resulting in impassable roads.

sushisource 6y ago
I mean you're not wrong, but you could say the same thing about breathing or walking. They're complicated on some level, but we do them just fine. To me this is really a point about just how good the interface of wheel/pedals is, that any moron off the street can be taught to drive in a matter of hours.
- tartoran 6y ago
  Just because walking is easy to us doesn’t mean walking is an easy feat. Best robots barely come close to mimicking humans. And yes, humans are quite good at walking. Yes, any moron can learn the basics of driving in a couple of hours but they’re far from average or good drivers, it takes a bit more than that to become an average driver and there are still some factors at play which might influence that: spatial ability, reflexes, attention span, how one handles stressful situations. But a moron can be a good driver without being smart about other things or having a good education