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How about Microsoft? They own Windows + Internet Explorer/Edge + Bing and a lot of internet services. I think it's problematic that Skype gets auto-installed

How about Microsoft? They own Windows + Internet Explorer/Edge + Bing and a lot of internet services. I think it's problematic that Skype gets auto-installed eery time Windows updates.

absolutelyrad 6y ago
I don't think it's a problem. Developers that develop for Windows collectively make far more money than Microsoft does. Windows is a platform and Microsoft does a good job of being a platform. While Microsoft bundles, it's not problematic like Google or Apple. Their way of doing things is different. The problem with the smart phone world is that apps are distributed through stores not websites. There isn't any worthy exclusive Windows Store app I can find. Every useful software is available from the websites. In the smart phone world, as a device manufacturer you have to get Google's blessings. They control the play store. And as a device manufacturer, no play store = no sales. The app store parasite model needs to end. I get no viruses in years, and I download software from websites all the time on Windows 10.
leetcrew 6y ago
if microsoft is abusing their OS market share to push edge and bing, they are doing an awfully bad job of it.
- anoraca 6y ago
  Based on the frequency with which Windows 10 decides to reset my default browser to Edge "because reasons" I disagree.
  - leetcrew 6y ago
    that does sound very annoying (although as a Win10 user myself, I can't say I've ever experienced this), but it's not exactly an antitrust issue when edge and IE combined have captured only ~10% of the browser market.
  - throwaway-8c93 6y ago
    Google accepted the anti-consumer challenge: on Android, links from Google Assistant and Google News feed ignore phone's default browser setting, and open in Chrome instead. Not only has Chrome near monopoly, cemented by being the default preinstalled browser - they feel the urge to nip even the tiny insignificant competition in the bud.

How about Microsoft? They own Windows + Internet Explorer/Edge + Bing and a lot of internet services. I think it's problematic that Skype gets auto-installed eery time Windows updates.

absolutelyrad 6y ago

I don't think it's a problem. Developers that develop for Windows collectively make far more money than Microsoft does. Windows is a platform and Microsoft does a good job of being a platform. While Microsoft bundles, it's not problematic like Google or Apple. Their way of doing things is different. The problem with the smart phone world is that apps are distributed through stores not websites. There isn't any worthy exclusive Windows Store app I can find. Every useful software is available from the websites. In the smart phone world, as a device manufacturer you have to get Google's blessings. They control the play store. And as a device manufacturer, no play store = no sales. The app store parasite model needs to end. I get no viruses in years, and I download software from websites all the time on Windows 10.

leetcrew 6y ago

if microsoft is abusing their OS market share to push edge and bing, they are doing an awfully bad job of it.

anoraca 6y ago
Based on the frequency with which Windows 10 decides to reset my default browser to Edge "because reasons" I disagree.
- leetcrew 6y ago
  that does sound very annoying (although as a Win10 user myself, I can't say I've ever experienced this), but it's not exactly an antitrust issue when edge and IE combined have captured only ~10% of the browser market.
- throwaway-8c93 6y ago
  Google accepted the anti-consumer challenge: on Android, links from Google Assistant and Google News feed ignore phone's default browser setting, and open in Chrome instead. Not only has Chrome near monopoly, cemented by being the default preinstalled browser - they feel the urge to nip even the tiny insignificant competition in the bud.