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> How much more ? This seems like a good method of determining this [0]. > Whats the evidence that those 978 is avoidable because of mask ? Physics, New Zeal

> How much more ? This seems like a good method of determining this [0]. > Whats the evidence that those 978 is avoidable because of mask ? Physics, New Zealand, Japan, most other countries. > How much more ? This seems like a good method of determining this [0]. > as long as I can choose other business that doesn't require mask or if I have business I can choose to not requiring mask. So what if all businesses require masks? [0] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

matz1 6y ago
>Physics, How the physics work in this case? virus particle is much smaller than mask pores, especially with most mask that worn by general public https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 > New Zealand, Japan, most other countries. In those countries, What evidence that it is the mask that responsible for it ? Sweden, Florida, South Dakota doesn't have mask mandate and they are doing very well. >So what if all businesses require masks? very unlikely, even if that the case then if I own business I can have competitive advantage by attracting customer that don't like mask.
- Shared404 6y ago
  > How the physics work in this case? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v2 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcnTNQG1_WkZ5h7go3B0Ntw/about https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcnTNQG1_WkZ5h7go3B0Ntw/abo... This about page looks... not so trustworthy. "SECOND OPiNION!!" -- Capitalization and punctuation taken from page. > Sweden, Florida, South Dakota https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoiding-strict-coronavirus-lockdowns-locks-down-amid-surge/ https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoid... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-mask-mandate/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-...
  - matz1 6y ago
    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ 'Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.' Doesn't say anything about clothes mask that most people use. >https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v... Its say it may block some droplet, and even then require 2 or 3 layers of cloth. Does not saying anything about whether it can reduce virus transmission. >This about page looks... not so trustworthy. The page looks has nothing to do with the content/argument. >https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoiding-strict-coronavirus-lockdowns-locks-down-amid-surge/ https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoid... So ? They have no mask mandate and still no lockdown and live is pretty much still normal there. >https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ So ? They are doing very well. I went there for visit myself recently and considering moving there. >https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-mask-mandate/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-... So ? She is doing the right thing and the state are doing well too.
    - Shared404 6y ago
      A summary of this conversation so far: --- You've moved the goalpost: Masks don't work -> Some masks don't work. --- Sources you've provided: A paper that didn't cover the topic you were "refuting" with it: ( https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817 https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817 ) A YouTube video from a "doctor" who has provided no certifications, claims to be non political and is promoting a debunked theory (hydroxychloroquine), and has fixed the typo I pointed out to you to you the other day, so congrats on that one. --- Topic you've not responded about: Death's. Both amount: ( https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm ) And the rate increase demonstrated in the math earlier. --- Unless you can provide some more substantive evidence than "I feel" and "This rando on YouTube agrees with me", I don't see any reason to continue this conversation further. Edit: Formatting

matz1 6y ago

>Physics, How the physics work in this case? virus particle is much smaller than mask pores, especially with most mask that worn by general public https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 > New Zealand, Japan, most other countries. In those countries, What evidence that it is the mask that responsible for it ? Sweden, Florida, South Dakota doesn't have mask mandate and they are doing very well. >So what if all businesses require masks? very unlikely, even if that the case then if I own business I can have competitive advantage by attracting customer that don't like mask.

Shared404 6y ago
> How the physics work in this case? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v2 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcnTNQG1_WkZ5h7go3B0Ntw/about https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcnTNQG1_WkZ5h7go3B0Ntw/abo... This about page looks... not so trustworthy. "SECOND OPiNION!!" -- Capitalization and punctuation taken from page. > Sweden, Florida, South Dakota https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoiding-strict-coronavirus-lockdowns-locks-down-amid-surge/ https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoid... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-mask-mandate/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-...
- matz1 6y ago
  >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ 'Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.' Doesn't say anything about clothes mask that most people use. >https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v... Its say it may block some droplet, and even then require 2 or 3 layers of cloth. Does not saying anything about whether it can reduce virus transmission. >This about page looks... not so trustworthy. The page looks has nothing to do with the content/argument. >https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoiding-strict-coronavirus-lockdowns-locks-down-amid-surge/ https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoid... So ? They have no mask mandate and still no lockdown and live is pretty much still normal there. >https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ So ? They are doing very well. I went there for visit myself recently and considering moving there. >https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-mask-mandate/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-... So ? She is doing the right thing and the state are doing well too.
  - Shared404 6y ago
    A summary of this conversation so far: --- You've moved the goalpost: Masks don't work -> Some masks don't work. --- Sources you've provided: A paper that didn't cover the topic you were "refuting" with it: ( https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817 https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817 ) A YouTube video from a "doctor" who has provided no certifications, claims to be non political and is promoting a debunked theory (hydroxychloroquine), and has fixed the typo I pointed out to you to you the other day, so congrats on that one. --- Topic you've not responded about: Death's. Both amount: ( https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm ) And the rate increase demonstrated in the math earlier. --- Unless you can provide some more substantive evidence than "I feel" and "This rando on YouTube agrees with me", I don't see any reason to continue this conversation further. Edit: Formatting