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> with the exception of Hawaii, which actually has perfect weather Hawaii gets 70 inches of rain per year, and LA gets 15. While there's no denying the natural

> with the exception of Hawaii, which actually has perfect weather Hawaii gets 70 inches of rain per year, and LA gets 15. While there's no denying the natural beauty of Hawaii, saying that it has perfect weather is a matter of personal taste. > The 50 square miles of SF has perfect weather, if you're not put off by cold and clingy fog. What does this even mean? SF is 7 miles in diameter, and the various foggy microclimates don't reach far beyond the city's perimeter (and most of the time they don't even reach Potrero Hill). Describing this as a 50 mile perimeter would imply that Palo Alto has a lot of fog, which couldn't be more wrong. The land between San Diego and SF in the N-S direction and the I5 and the ocean in the E-W direction has what most people would describe as the perfect climate, with just enough variation to suit individual styles. If you prefer a slightly higher temperature you go further south within that area, and otherwise a bit further north. And if you really like the chill air, you step over from San Mateo to Daly City. We can argue about all sorts of issues that negatively affect California (eg: taxes), but the weather is clearly a huge upside to living there.

jcranmer 6y ago
> Hawaii gets 70 inches of rain per year, and LA gets 15. That varies dramatically based on where you are in Hawaii. The prominent mountain ridges produce very sharp rain shadows; Hilo (on the windward side of the Big Island) gets 126" per year, but Kona (on the leeward side) is more like 19". Most people would live in the Honolulu region, which is on the windward (hence drier) side of Oahu.
- jcranmer 6y ago
  > the windward (hence drier) side I noticed this too late to edit the comment, but it should actually say "leeward" side, not "windward."
- aerosmile 6y ago
  Talk about micro climates!
  - jcranmer 6y ago
    It's a bit hard to call it a microclimate when you're talking about places 60 miles apart, and the ring road peaks at ~2800' if you take the north way via Waimea or ~4000' if you take the south way via Kilauea, or ~6600' if you take the Saddle Road between Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea. There is, after all, a 13000' mountain in between the two sides of the Big Island.
ak217 6y ago
> What does this even mean? I hate to be pedantic, but you're misreading the parent post (they didn't say "diameter" nor "perimeter" and neither really makes sense in this context) and then being confrontational based on your misreading. You and the parent post both have good points otherwise, best to keep it a friendly discussion.
- aerosmile 6y ago
  I missed the "square" in the "square mile" phrase and thought the OP was referring to a distance (hence my reference to Palo Alto) and not area - my bad.

jcranmer 6y ago

> Hawaii gets 70 inches of rain per year, and LA gets 15. That varies dramatically based on where you are in Hawaii. The prominent mountain ridges produce very sharp rain shadows; Hilo (on the windward side of the Big Island) gets 126" per year, but Kona (on the leeward side) is more like 19". Most people would live in the Honolulu region, which is on the windward (hence drier) side of Oahu.

jcranmer 6y ago
> the windward (hence drier) side I noticed this too late to edit the comment, but it should actually say "leeward" side, not "windward."
aerosmile 6y ago
Talk about micro climates!
- jcranmer 6y ago
  It's a bit hard to call it a microclimate when you're talking about places 60 miles apart, and the ring road peaks at ~2800' if you take the north way via Waimea or ~4000' if you take the south way via Kilauea, or ~6600' if you take the Saddle Road between Mauna Loa and Mauna Kea. There is, after all, a 13000' mountain in between the two sides of the Big Island.

ak217 6y ago

> What does this even mean? I hate to be pedantic, but you're misreading the parent post (they didn't say "diameter" nor "perimeter" and neither really makes sense in this context) and then being confrontational based on your misreading. You and the parent post both have good points otherwise, best to keep it a friendly discussion.

aerosmile 6y ago
I missed the "square" in the "square mile" phrase and thought the OP was referring to a distance (hence my reference to Palo Alto) and not area - my bad.