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Like TSLA?

_fat_santa 6y ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe only Musk is moving to Texas, not Telsa. Thought at this point they are basically one in the same.
- beamatronic 6y ago
  Tesla is building factories in Texas. Long term Texas makes more sense for manufacturing as there are established supply chains there.
  - mrlala 6y ago
    You also probably have tons of cheap flat land that is ideal for manufacturing? So that would seem to make sense.
    - mainstreemm 6y ago
      The Midwest has that too. But it also has unions. :)
      - blaser-waffle 6y ago
        It's also a lot further away from the Mexico border, where an awful lot of car parts are manufactured. A whole lot of those parts are already flowing through TX as it is, easier to dip into the existing streams than build new supply chains. Also a lot of bigger, tech friendly cities -- Dallas, Austin, and Houston is poised to overtake Chicago as the 3rd largest city in the US within a decade or two. Kanasas may be similar in terms of taxes and political climate (unions) but all its really got going for it is empty space. Ditto for much of the rest of the Midwest.
- SmokeyHamster 6y ago
  He's opening new Tesla facilities in Texas, but currently he hasn't formally announced he's completely pulling operations out of Texas, although he's threatened to in the past.
  - abernard1 6y ago
    He made some very suggestive comments last week about Tesla being the last manufacturer of cars in CA. I might add, the size of the Austin gigafactory is larger than the size of all Tesla factories in the world combined [1]. I will leave you to do the math if Tesla leaving CA isn't a possibility. [1] https://electrek.co/2020/07/30/tesla-gigafactory-texas-crazy-potential-size-comparison/ https://electrek.co/2020/07/30/tesla-gigafactory-texas-crazy...
    - reportingsjr 6y ago
      That size comparison doesn't actually show a comparison. It only has the footprints for the other factories, and the entirety of the land purchase for the texas factory. What a bizarre thing! If you look at the planning documents you'll see that the planned footprint for the texas factory is probably a similar size to the plans for the rest of their "giga" factories. https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/09/Tesla-Gigafactory-Texas-plan.jpg?quality=82&strip=all https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/09/Tesla...
      - abernard1 6y ago
        It explains the footprints in the article. They're largely not usable, whereas the Austin one is. These are manufacturing jobs. It is not exactly like California has a better environment for that than Texas.
        reportingsjr 6y ago
        Your second statement struck me, and I was curious how the manufacturing sectors compare for California vs Texas. Numbers from the National Association of Manufacturers: California: $316.7b manufacturing output, 10.67% of state product, 7.72% of employment. [1] Texas: $230.45b manufacturing output, 12.98% of state product, 7.04% of employment. [2] So really, it doesn't seem like one state is particularly better than the other for manufacturing by the numbers. 1: https://www.nam.org/state-manufacturing-data/2019-california-manufacturing-facts/ https://www.nam.org/state-manufacturing-data/2019-california... 2: https://www.nam.org/state-manufacturing-data/2019-texas-manufacturing-facts/ https://www.nam.org/state-manufacturing-data/2019-texas-manu...
rriepe 6y ago
Going to Mars? Or running to Mars?

Like TSLA?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe only Musk is moving to Texas, not Telsa. Thought at this point they are basically one in the same.

beamatronic 6y ago
Tesla is building factories in Texas. Long term Texas makes more sense for manufacturing as there are established supply chains there.
- mrlala 6y ago
  You also probably have tons of cheap flat land that is ideal for manufacturing? So that would seem to make sense.
  - mainstreemm 6y ago
    The Midwest has that too. But it also has unions. :)
    - blaser-waffle 6y ago
      It's also a lot further away from the Mexico border, where an awful lot of car parts are manufactured. A whole lot of those parts are already flowing through TX as it is, easier to dip into the existing streams than build new supply chains. Also a lot of bigger, tech friendly cities -- Dallas, Austin, and Houston is poised to overtake Chicago as the 3rd largest city in the US within a decade or two. Kanasas may be similar in terms of taxes and political climate (unions) but all its really got going for it is empty space. Ditto for much of the rest of the Midwest.
SmokeyHamster 6y ago
He's opening new Tesla facilities in Texas, but currently he hasn't formally announced he's completely pulling operations out of Texas, although he's threatened to in the past.
- abernard1 6y ago
  He made some very suggestive comments last week about Tesla being the last manufacturer of cars in CA. I might add, the size of the Austin gigafactory is larger than the size of all Tesla factories in the world combined [1]. I will leave you to do the math if Tesla leaving CA isn't a possibility. [1] https://electrek.co/2020/07/30/tesla-gigafactory-texas-crazy-potential-size-comparison/ https://electrek.co/2020/07/30/tesla-gigafactory-texas-crazy...
  - reportingsjr 6y ago
    That size comparison doesn't actually show a comparison. It only has the footprints for the other factories, and the entirety of the land purchase for the texas factory. What a bizarre thing! If you look at the planning documents you'll see that the planned footprint for the texas factory is probably a similar size to the plans for the rest of their "giga" factories. https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/09/Tesla-Gigafactory-Texas-plan.jpg?quality=82&strip=all https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/09/Tesla...
    - abernard1 6y ago
      It explains the footprints in the article. They're largely not usable, whereas the Austin one is. These are manufacturing jobs. It is not exactly like California has a better environment for that than Texas.
      - reportingsjr 6y ago
        Your second statement struck me, and I was curious how the manufacturing sectors compare for California vs Texas. Numbers from the National Association of Manufacturers: California: $316.7b manufacturing output, 10.67% of state product, 7.72% of employment. [1] Texas: $230.45b manufacturing output, 12.98% of state product, 7.04% of employment. [2] So really, it doesn't seem like one state is particularly better than the other for manufacturing by the numbers. 1: https://www.nam.org/state-manufacturing-data/2019-california-manufacturing-facts/ https://www.nam.org/state-manufacturing-data/2019-california... 2: https://www.nam.org/state-manufacturing-data/2019-texas-manufacturing-facts/ https://www.nam.org/state-manufacturing-data/2019-texas-manu...

rriepe 6y ago

Going to Mars? Or running to Mars?