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actually... I did wrong quote so joke on me! The quote that I wanted is this one > That’s where you come in: We need a massive outpouring of support for Apple

by confiq 6y ago

actually... I did wrong quote so joke on me! The quote that I wanted is this one > That’s where you come in: We need a massive outpouring of support for Apple’s decision to help strengthen its resolve to protect consumer privacy. Why mozilla needs people like me and you in order for apple to fulfil their promises for consumer privacy? As apple says “Privacy. That’s iPhone”, why it needs user attention for apple actions?

HatchedLake721 6y ago
I think you misunderstood Mozilla. Apple is still going ahead with this regardless. My understanding the rollout was delayed because of ongoing financial hardship on everyone in the world because of COVID (and to give more time to advertisers, developers and others to prepare). Mozilla is also asking everyone to publicly support Apple's decision because it's good for consumers, which in result would also force others to also adopt it (Android), but also because on the other end of this decision are advertisers, game developers and Facebook that are publicly telling everyone it's a bad thing since it'll hit their wallets.
- confiq 6y ago
  ok, that is one way to look at this... I've just disabled IDFA on my phone now! Thanks for having nice conversation! :)
  - HatchedLake721 6y ago
    You too, thanks! Here's what we exactly talked about by the way https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25441986 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25441986
kergonath 6y ago
Making noise about issues helps them getting fixed at several level. If people are aware, they can factor it in their purchase decision, they can get some support for some regulations, good publicity is an incentive for some companies to behave, etc. Mozilla is just encouraging people to support this type of initiative, it does not mean that Apple is bad just because they do something that their users like.

by confiq 6y ago

HatchedLake721 6y ago

I think you misunderstood Mozilla. Apple is still going ahead with this regardless. My understanding the rollout was delayed because of ongoing financial hardship on everyone in the world because of COVID (and to give more time to advertisers, developers and others to prepare). Mozilla is also asking everyone to publicly support Apple's decision because it's good for consumers, which in result would also force others to also adopt it (Android), but also because on the other end of this decision are advertisers, game developers and Facebook that are publicly telling everyone it's a bad thing since it'll hit their wallets.

confiq 6y ago
ok, that is one way to look at this... I've just disabled IDFA on my phone now! Thanks for having nice conversation! :)
- HatchedLake721 6y ago
  You too, thanks! Here's what we exactly talked about by the way https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25441986 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25441986

kergonath 6y ago

Making noise about issues helps them getting fixed at several level. If people are aware, they can factor it in their purchase decision, they can get some support for some regulations, good publicity is an incentive for some companies to behave, etc. Mozilla is just encouraging people to support this type of initiative, it does not mean that Apple is bad just because they do something that their users like.