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One important implication of not using full encryption is that it protects users from themselves. If a user forgets their password, Apple can still unlock their

One important implication of not using full encryption is that it protects users from themselves. If a user forgets their password, Apple can still unlock their data. From a security perspective, this obviously isn't ideal. But, from the perspective of the average user who has lost all of their data, this is great.

elliekelly 6y ago
I should be given the choice to turn it on though. I understand Apple not wanting to deal with the annoying customer who forgets their password, loses everything, and blames Apple. I’ve seen enough forgotten password people while waiting at the Genius Bar to sympathize with Apple. But just because some of their customers can’t handle the responsibility doesn’t mean none of their customers should have the option. I encrypt my hard drive despite Apple’s warnings about FireVault. I understand the risk, have weighed the pros and cons, and have taken steps to mitigate the risk.
- bt1a 6y ago
  It is very typical of Apple, unfortunately, to leave out power features in order to focus on excelling at the basics. I switched to an iPhone from a rooted Android a few years ago, and while I do miss that level of control, I don't have to worry about the overhead that that type of Android device commands.
- zepto 6y ago
  I entirely agree with this, and I expect this is what will happen over time. But, just like with FileVault, the roll out will most likely be relatively slow and progressive.
  - rekoil 6y ago
    Every big iPhone/iOS keynote I think "this is the year!", but it never happens .
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hanche 6y ago
This. As an example, my mother (who is over 90) got locked out of her icloud account a couple years ago, from getting unexpected password prompts on her ipad and not understanding which password was required, she entered the wrong one too many times. We had recorded our answers to the “security questions” when setting up the account, but they were not accepted either. In the end, we managed to restore access via a rather cumbersome process. No complaints about that, of course; the important part is that she did get her access back in the end.

elliekelly 6y ago

I should be given the choice to turn it on though. I understand Apple not wanting to deal with the annoying customer who forgets their password, loses everything, and blames Apple. I’ve seen enough forgotten password people while waiting at the Genius Bar to sympathize with Apple. But just because some of their customers can’t handle the responsibility doesn’t mean none of their customers should have the option. I encrypt my hard drive despite Apple’s warnings about FireVault. I understand the risk, have weighed the pros and cons, and have taken steps to mitigate the risk.

bt1a 6y ago
It is very typical of Apple, unfortunately, to leave out power features in order to focus on excelling at the basics. I switched to an iPhone from a rooted Android a few years ago, and while I do miss that level of control, I don't have to worry about the overhead that that type of Android device commands.
zepto 6y ago
I entirely agree with this, and I expect this is what will happen over time. But, just like with FileVault, the roll out will most likely be relatively slow and progressive.
- rekoil 6y ago
  Every big iPhone/iOS keynote I think "this is the year!", but it never happens .

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hanche 6y ago

This. As an example, my mother (who is over 90) got locked out of her icloud account a couple years ago, from getting unexpected password prompts on her ipad and not understanding which password was required, she entered the wrong one too many times. We had recorded our answers to the “security questions” when setting up the account, but they were not accepted either. In the end, we managed to restore access via a rather cumbersome process. No complaints about that, of course; the important part is that she did get her access back in the end.