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> This is what happens when you get incompetent non technical people to regulate on things. I think GDPR, and the so-called "cookie law" before it, was done pr
by chriswarbo 6y ago
> This is what happens when you get incompetent non technical people to regulate on things.
I think GDPR, and the so-called "cookie law" before it, was done pretty competently. The principles are pretty clear: data policies/controllers/etc. have to be explicit and limited; personal data collection requires consent of the people involved; opting into a service implies consent for data required by that service (e.g. cookies for shopping carts, local storage for highscores, etc.); if consent isn't implied, it must be requested explicitly.
Explicit consent is a last resort, and only required when collecting personal data which (a) isn't directly required to provide a service or (b) comes from people who aren't users of your service (i.e. who haven't opted in). Advertising is a good example, since the "users" of an ad network (those opting to use it) are the people buying and selling ad space; people viewing those ads aren't users (they haven't opted in); and advertising isn't required to provide a service (e.g. a news site; it might be indirectly required, for raising revenue, but the site would work just the same with any revenue source).
The fact you're tired of popups shows that GDPR is working; the extent of data collection, surveillance, etc. has been brought to the surface. Your anger is misdirected though: it's not GDPR's fault that so many surveillance organisations are trying to track and target you; quite the opposite!
> make it easy to accept everything in one click
> Is this freedom?
Do you think it would be "freedom" to waive all of your waivable rights, to anyone and everyone who asks, without even knowing they asked? That's what an automated banner-clicker would be doing, since consent popups are not restricted to talking about cookies (just like GDPR isn't about cookies); they can ask for pretty much anything. In fact, I imagine many of them ask for more than they're legally allowed (this happens all the time, e.g. many privacy policies do this, many "warranty void if removed" stickers are not legally enforcable, etc.).
If you'd instead rather tell your browser to accept certain pre-selected terms which you're comfortable with, then you're in luck! There's a standard for that called P3P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P3P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P3P It's not supported by Chrome, but you can enable it in Firefox, as long as you're using version 2 (it was removed in Firefox 3). Then you just need to convince every Web site you visit to implement it. Good luck!
- stale2002 6y ago> it's not GDPR's fault It absolutely is the fault of GDPR that now a bunch of websites in the US are blocking him. There was a new law, and now a bunch of newspapers responded to that law. As predicted. It was entirely predicted that this was going to be the result of GDPR. It should be obvious that some companies would simply block people from the EU, and those people could be worse off for being blocked. > The fact you're tired of popups shows that GDPR is working But the person does not want those popups. They simply don't care that much about data tracking. And instead, they are more annoyed by the popups. This is a negative consequence that you have to recognize. > Do you think it would be "freedom" to waive all of your waivable rights Well here is a better solution. The people who want the popups to show up, all the time, with the horrible UI, could have that. But what if, for everyone else, we had a single click button that said "ignore all this GDPR stuff, and go back to how it was before". That way, people for prefer the frequent popups can have them, and the people who don't want that, can just agree to all of it, at once, and not have to worry about it anymore, if we choose do so. That would be a choice, right? Thats freedom.