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> Companies favoring their own services could be outlawed. Apple would have to significantly redesign their entire OSs if this comes to pass. Will be really in
by tpush 6y ago
> Companies favoring their own services could be outlawed.
Apple would have to significantly redesign their entire OSs if this comes to pass. Will be really interesting to see!
- tonyedgecombe 6y agoThere are a lot of unexpected side effects lurking in those sort of decisions. For example Apple developed Pages, Numbers and Keynote because nobody else was able to compete against Microsoft. It's hard to see the computing environment would be better off without those products. You can argue that someone else would fill that gap but they didn't really seem to be doing that before Apple stepped in. In fact I would guess that Apple would have preferred not to have developed them, it's not as if they generate any direct revenue.
- Zeing0Ch 6y agoWhats even the point of becoming a Google or Apple if then some clueless bureaucrat gets to tell you what you are allowed to do with your market position? Nobody is stopping other companies to build their own Android or iPhone, its working as intended, no reason to do anything.
- young_unixer 6y agoYup. I'm waiting for an Iphone/Android competitor, but all of incumbents are half-baked solutions. The sanest thing you can do is use LineageOS, but I can't really trust the LineageOS team since the april fools fiasco. The lack of a third option is simply because of incompetence, not monopoly.
- young_unixer 6y agoI said incumbent, but I meant the opposite. Stupid me.
- avianlyric 6y ago> Whats even the point of becoming a Google or Apple if then some clueless bureaucrat gets to tell you what you are allowed to do with your market position? I think you may have inadvertently stumbled on the point of these laws. The EU doesn't want companies getting to Google or Apple scale, and all the power that amasses with it, without it being possible to ensure they're holding up EU ideals, rather than their own.
- e_proxus 6y agoIt only dictates you’re not allowed to favor your own products. I think Apple is already in a good position here since these are all on the normal App Store next to MS Office. The only thing they could not do is unfairly promote them on the store and ship them pre-installed.
- Gravityloss 6y agoThis is an incredibly hard thing to legislate. Almost every company does some level of vertical integration, and it's often good to the consumer. Still you want to prevent locking down and monopolies or even oligopolies. Would Apple itself be here if Microsoft didn't port Office to their OS?
- Someone 6y agoMicrosoft ported part of Office to Windows. Excel for Mac is from 1985, the first Windows version from 1987 (you could say both evolved from DOS Multiplan, but that was on Mac, too); Word was on DOS in 1983, Mac in 1985, Windows in 1989.
- cblconfederate 6y agoThey can probably be easily compliant if they allow alternative app stores. Nothing else needs to change
- dannyw 6y agoVertical integration is fine, just require them to open up the exact same APIs to third party developers so they are not at a disadvantage.
- cle 6y agoWould this mean Apple would need to sell M1 chips for non-macOS use?
- avianlyric 6y agoNot sure if you're saying that bad thing or not, but I think the answer is almost certainly no. But there could be a requirement that Apple open up their laptops to other OSs (and not just via virtualization). And honestly I don't see why that would be a bad thing.
- cle 6y agoI don't know if it'd be a bad thing or not, was just wondering out loud. I could see reasonable arguments for both sides of that issue.
- grishka 6y agoThey would simply have to move a bunch of frameworks from /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks to /System/Library/Frameworks, remove signature checks, and provide documentation.