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> apps are close to malware installers I'm probably out of the loop, do you mind expanding on this?

by dastx 6y ago

oarsinsync 6y ago
First hit on DDG for “Zoom Mac malware”: https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-installer-update-privacy-security-concerns https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-instal...
zaroth 6y ago
IMO this was part of a misinformation campaign against Zoom from several months back. Zoom is not malware and never was malware, although Zoom did so some installer tricks to help computer illiterate users get into meeting more quickly, which coincidentally is their entire value-add. Note I own no shares in Zoom, do not and never have worked for Zoom, and have no financial interest in Zoom.
- ffpip 6y ago
  https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-technology-security-coronavirus-video-conferencing https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-tech... https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-installer-update-privacy-security-concerns https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-instal... > Zoom is not malware and never was malware I have never said that. I said that installers are close to malware. > which coincidentally is their entire value-add. Yes. This also enabled full camera and mic access without user interaction. Entire value-add. https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-flaw-video-conference-websites-hijack-mac-cameras https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-fla... https://twitter.com/mathowie/status/1148393069667991552 https://twitter.com/mathowie/status/1148393069667991552
- akvadrako 6y ago
  That's hogwash – Zoom is more difficult to get working for computer newbies than say Jitsi, which doesn't need any weird installer tricks.
  - BlueTemplar 6y ago
    Depends which Jitsi...
ffpip 6y ago
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-technology-security-coronavirus-video-conferencing https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-tech... https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-installer-update-privacy-security-concerns https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-instal... https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-flaw-video-conference-websites-hijack-mac-cameras https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-fla... https://twitter.com/mathowie/status/1148393069667991552 https://twitter.com/mathowie/status/1148393069667991552

> apps are close to malware installers I'm probably out of the loop, do you mind expanding on this?

by dastx 6y ago

> apps are close to malware installers I'm probably out of the loop, do you mind expanding on this?

First hit on DDG for “Zoom Mac malware”: https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-installer-update-privacy-security-concerns https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-instal...

zaroth 6y ago

IMO this was part of a misinformation campaign against Zoom from several months back. Zoom is not malware and never was malware, although Zoom did so some installer tricks to help computer illiterate users get into meeting more quickly, which coincidentally is their entire value-add. Note I own no shares in Zoom, do not and never have worked for Zoom, and have no financial interest in Zoom.

ffpip 6y ago
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-technology-security-coronavirus-video-conferencing https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-tech... https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-installer-update-privacy-security-concerns https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-instal... > Zoom is not malware and never was malware I have never said that. I said that installers are close to malware. > which coincidentally is their entire value-add. Yes. This also enabled full camera and mic access without user interaction. Entire value-add. https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-flaw-video-conference-websites-hijack-mac-cameras https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-fla... https://twitter.com/mathowie/status/1148393069667991552 https://twitter.com/mathowie/status/1148393069667991552
akvadrako 6y ago
That's hogwash – Zoom is more difficult to get working for computer newbies than say Jitsi, which doesn't need any weird installer tricks.
- BlueTemplar 6y ago
  Depends which Jitsi...

ffpip 6y ago

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-technology-security-coronavirus-video-conferencing https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/02/zoom-tech... https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-installer-update-privacy-security-concerns https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/2/21204648/zoom-macos-instal... https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-flaw-video-conference-websites-hijack-mac-cameras https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/8/20687014/zoom-security-fla... https://twitter.com/mathowie/status/1148393069667991552 https://twitter.com/mathowie/status/1148393069667991552