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What? are you implying that the US government perpetrated attacks on US gov personnel? the amount of insane unfounded crap posted in HN comments is growing and

What? are you implying that the US government perpetrated attacks on US gov personnel? the amount of insane unfounded crap posted in HN comments is growing and i'm not sure if there is a fix. BTW recent articles say it's microwaves

10000truths 6y ago
I don't know about jessaustin's claims, but it definitely isn't beyond a US government agency to attack its own personnel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiki_Camarena https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiki_Camarena
jessaustin 6y ago
Yes, one must see the most recent coverage to know the current story. ISTR someone had retired from CIA and was shopping a memoir around; apparently the only exploit he could mention on the record was that one time he got sick. Just his bad luck that in late 2020 we're mostly thinking about a different illness. The only common element among USA facilities in Havana, Guangzhou, and Tashkent is the USA facilities themselves. Much like the situation described in TFA, those facilities were built by the most corrupt bidders. It will surprise no one when it is revealed that some corner was cut, and American personnel were exposed to harmful amounts of some ghastly chemicals, radiations, etc. It is literally a conspiracy theory to reject this simplest possible explanation in favor of some outlandish three-way joint venture among the Cubans, the Chinese, and the Uzbeks, three nations not known for ever having done anything together.
- dillondoyle 6y ago
  Or that foreign agents can roam basically freely in those (and basically all) countries? I'm totally on board with accident/malpractice from shitty construction. But implying or outright saying the CIA used a weapon on their own employees is crazy - without actual proof - especially to write out on HN. Sure as pointed out below the US has done - and probably is - doing stupid things. But I really don't buy testing a WEAPON without consent

10000truths 6y ago

I don't know about jessaustin's claims, but it definitely isn't beyond a US government agency to attack its own personnel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiki_Camarena https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiki_Camarena

jessaustin 6y ago

Yes, one must see the most recent coverage to know the current story. ISTR someone had retired from CIA and was shopping a memoir around; apparently the only exploit he could mention on the record was that one time he got sick. Just his bad luck that in late 2020 we're mostly thinking about a different illness. The only common element among USA facilities in Havana, Guangzhou, and Tashkent is the USA facilities themselves. Much like the situation described in TFA, those facilities were built by the most corrupt bidders. It will surprise no one when it is revealed that some corner was cut, and American personnel were exposed to harmful amounts of some ghastly chemicals, radiations, etc. It is literally a conspiracy theory to reject this simplest possible explanation in favor of some outlandish three-way joint venture among the Cubans, the Chinese, and the Uzbeks, three nations not known for ever having done anything together.

dillondoyle 6y ago
Or that foreign agents can roam basically freely in those (and basically all) countries? I'm totally on board with accident/malpractice from shitty construction. But implying or outright saying the CIA used a weapon on their own employees is crazy - without actual proof - especially to write out on HN. Sure as pointed out below the US has done - and probably is - doing stupid things. But I really don't buy testing a WEAPON without consent