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I think this is over played because the articles get views. First the Bay was in trouble because everyone is going to work from Tahoe and Iowa. Then tech compan

I think this is over played because the articles get views. First the Bay was in trouble because everyone is going to work from Tahoe and Iowa. Then tech companies continued to lease new office space so we've got to have a different doomsday. Are the headquarters staff for these three companies vital to the Bay area economy? I'm not too worried. The more interesting question is which city will have the largest crop of unicorns in the next business cycle. If those companies go remote or hit their hyper growth phase in non-Bay cities there will be something to talk about.

rectang 6y ago
"Fleeing California" articles are evergreen on HN. I can never tell if there's anything new, or if it's just people voting up the usual nothingburger, presumably to express displeasure with California culture or governmental policies.
- dboreham 6y ago
  Feels like someone is pulling the strings here. Same thing happened a year or so ago with numerous articles about how robots and self-driving trucks were going to take all the blue collar jobs.
  - dannyincolor 6y ago
    Ironically, a ton of SV companies have been working on ways to keep drivers employed (and possibly even better paid, plus a safer job closer to home). Regularly overlooked when SV is being demonized for automating jobs though, naturally.
- dannyincolor 6y ago
  They’re evergreen anywhere you find people who low-key wish they could live in CA but can’t. It’s weird; just enjoy your state and do the best to make it better. Truly don’t get why people who don’t live in CA have so many opinions about it. Most states have problems on par with their economic power and population size; not much more too it than that but “hurr liberal policies are gonna ruin the whole country!” get the low-hanging clickbait (RevContent, etc.)
  - alisonkisk 6y ago
    It's because CA has perfect weather which is the one thing that is completely impossible to replicate anywhere else.
    - kibwen 6y ago
      The 50 square miles of SF has perfect weather, if you're not put off by cold and clingy fog. The other 160,000 square miles is as much of a mixed bag as any other state (with the exception of Hawaii, which actually has perfect weather).
      - dannyincolor 6y ago
        Agreed. And a big part of this is a person’s definition of perfect weather. I’m in SoCal just coastal enough to not get very high highs, but lows rarely pass 55. But, if SF was exactly the same price, I’d prefer that weather by quite a bit (even though anywhere SF to TJ is leagues “better” - by my definition - than the weather of the state I moved from). I just love that cozy but not-too-chilly climate of SF, ah. Perfect thinking/studying/hiking/reading weather for my tastes.
      - runamok 6y ago
        It depends on what you like to do outdoors I guess. I've lived in southern or northern california for almost 20 years and can pretty much run 365 days a year and bike almost that much. I HAVE run in snow storms in Illinois and North Carolina and heat waves in Houston and Austin, TX so my range of "comfort" is definitely a bit wider than the average person but in general the whole of California has near perfect weather IMO though it does get very hot as you go inland in the summer.
        ghaff 6y ago
        Yeah. Depending upon what you like, you can probably find just about your ideal weather somewhere in CA. The central valley is very hot. SF itself basically never gets hot but you have to sometimes deal with cold fog even in the middle of the summer. You have some of the hottest, driest weather on earth around Death Valley. You have snow in the mountains. Etc. What you don't really have in general is seasons (except in the mountains). But otherwise, for whatever California's other faults, it's hard to complain too much about the weather if you can choose where you live.
throwaway1777 6y ago
Totally agree, it all depends on where the next FAANG comes from, not what Oracle and HP are doing

rectang 6y ago

"Fleeing California" articles are evergreen on HN. I can never tell if there's anything new, or if it's just people voting up the usual nothingburger, presumably to express displeasure with California culture or governmental policies.

dboreham 6y ago
Feels like someone is pulling the strings here. Same thing happened a year or so ago with numerous articles about how robots and self-driving trucks were going to take all the blue collar jobs.
- dannyincolor 6y ago
  Ironically, a ton of SV companies have been working on ways to keep drivers employed (and possibly even better paid, plus a safer job closer to home). Regularly overlooked when SV is being demonized for automating jobs though, naturally.
dannyincolor 6y ago
They’re evergreen anywhere you find people who low-key wish they could live in CA but can’t. It’s weird; just enjoy your state and do the best to make it better. Truly don’t get why people who don’t live in CA have so many opinions about it. Most states have problems on par with their economic power and population size; not much more too it than that but “hurr liberal policies are gonna ruin the whole country!” get the low-hanging clickbait (RevContent, etc.)
- alisonkisk 6y ago
  It's because CA has perfect weather which is the one thing that is completely impossible to replicate anywhere else.
  - kibwen 6y ago
    The 50 square miles of SF has perfect weather, if you're not put off by cold and clingy fog. The other 160,000 square miles is as much of a mixed bag as any other state (with the exception of Hawaii, which actually has perfect weather).
    - dannyincolor 6y ago
      Agreed. And a big part of this is a person’s definition of perfect weather. I’m in SoCal just coastal enough to not get very high highs, but lows rarely pass 55. But, if SF was exactly the same price, I’d prefer that weather by quite a bit (even though anywhere SF to TJ is leagues “better” - by my definition - than the weather of the state I moved from). I just love that cozy but not-too-chilly climate of SF, ah. Perfect thinking/studying/hiking/reading weather for my tastes.
    - runamok 6y ago
      It depends on what you like to do outdoors I guess. I've lived in southern or northern california for almost 20 years and can pretty much run 365 days a year and bike almost that much. I HAVE run in snow storms in Illinois and North Carolina and heat waves in Houston and Austin, TX so my range of "comfort" is definitely a bit wider than the average person but in general the whole of California has near perfect weather IMO though it does get very hot as you go inland in the summer.
      - ghaff 6y ago
        Yeah. Depending upon what you like, you can probably find just about your ideal weather somewhere in CA. The central valley is very hot. SF itself basically never gets hot but you have to sometimes deal with cold fog even in the middle of the summer. You have some of the hottest, driest weather on earth around Death Valley. You have snow in the mountains. Etc. What you don't really have in general is seasons (except in the mountains). But otherwise, for whatever California's other faults, it's hard to complain too much about the weather if you can choose where you live.

throwaway1777 6y ago

Totally agree, it all depends on where the next FAANG comes from, not what Oracle and HP are doing