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TwitPic Will Sell Your Photos, But No Cash For You

15 points by ubasu 15y ago

ubasu 15y ago
Some commentary: http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/12/all-your-pics-are-be.html http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/12/all-your-pics-are-be.ht...
daimyoyo 15y ago
Like many people, I uploaded a picture to twitter shortly after joining and after that stuck with it.(I chose yfrog) I never thought about the copyright issues because I assumed I owned any image I loaded and if the service wanted to sell my photos, I'd have to give my consent and I'd be paid for them. Turns out, not so much. Once I learned that, I deleted all the photos I had on yfrog and switched to mobypicture. They explicitly say that my content is mine. I'd advise you to do the same as soon as possible. By the way, facebook has the same policy in their TOS.
- nikcub 15y ago
  somebody needs to create a website that is a directory of sites that tick off all the important ToS conditions. ie. which sites own your content when you upload, which ones do not delete, etc. sounds like a great weekend project for someone publish an API and hookup a browser plugin that will color the address bar red whenever you are about to signup to a site that has a fishy ToS At Techcrunch I built a bot that would crawl and grep ToS pages for changes, we used it a few times to detect new upcoming product launches from Google et al. I would integrate something similar into this ToS directory site
- pavel_lishin 15y ago
  Didn't you give consent by using the service? Pretty sure they have a ToS. Just because you didn't bother reading it doesn't mean you're not bound by it.
fleitz 15y ago
Amazing, a free service needs to sell your photos in order to make money in order to keep providing you a free service.
pud 15y ago
DMCA.
EwanG 15y ago
The service I am STILL looking for is one that will let me upload RAW, will allow end users to view them, and will let me pay some price (per picture if necessary) for permanent archival. IOW, I worry that about a year or so after I'm dead my last hard drive dies, and my digital pics going all the way back to my first Sony that used a 3.5 inch disk to take 640K photos are gone. I've thought about doing a mass conversion to JPEG, and then see if one of the public archive servers would take my collection, but I worry about how long it would take me to upload 2TB of photos. Alternately I could self-curate to get the collection size down, but I've learned over the years that sometimes a poor photo of something that ended up to be transitory is better than no photo at all.
- rkalla 15y ago
  EwanG, you must already know about SmugMug (as I imagine you've looked at all the image hosting services online multiple times if this is a big pain point), I'm curious why it wouldn't fit the bill? (I have absolutely no affiliation, shy of writing their Java API)
  - EwanG 15y ago
    First off, it seems that lets me "store" a RAW but that I have to attach that to a JPEG. I'm lazy enough to want to be able to upload the RAW and have it do the conversion for me. Second, and the bigger problem for my use case, is that there is no "forever" or "lifetime" account option. I want something where I pay the equivalent for a few years cost, and then as long as I have someone who has the username and PW and checks in at least once a year, I don't have to pay again. So a $599 account that has the Pro options as a single payment. Of course cheaper would be fine too :-) Lastly, and this is probably "just me", I'd like something that will let me do at least simple retouches on my Motorola Xoom. Build the service, or get SmugMug to extend theirs, and let me know so I can sign up!

15 points by ubasu 15y ago

ubasu 15y ago

Some commentary: http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/12/all-your-pics-are-be.html http://www.boingboing.net/2011/05/12/all-your-pics-are-be.ht...

daimyoyo 15y ago

Like many people, I uploaded a picture to twitter shortly after joining and after that stuck with it.(I chose yfrog) I never thought about the copyright issues because I assumed I owned any image I loaded and if the service wanted to sell my photos, I'd have to give my consent and I'd be paid for them. Turns out, not so much. Once I learned that, I deleted all the photos I had on yfrog and switched to mobypicture. They explicitly say that my content is mine. I'd advise you to do the same as soon as possible. By the way, facebook has the same policy in their TOS.

nikcub 15y ago
somebody needs to create a website that is a directory of sites that tick off all the important ToS conditions. ie. which sites own your content when you upload, which ones do not delete, etc. sounds like a great weekend project for someone publish an API and hookup a browser plugin that will color the address bar red whenever you are about to signup to a site that has a fishy ToS At Techcrunch I built a bot that would crawl and grep ToS pages for changes, we used it a few times to detect new upcoming product launches from Google et al. I would integrate something similar into this ToS directory site
pavel_lishin 15y ago
Didn't you give consent by using the service? Pretty sure they have a ToS. Just because you didn't bother reading it doesn't mean you're not bound by it.

fleitz 15y ago

Amazing, a free service needs to sell your photos in order to make money in order to keep providing you a free service.

pud 15y ago

DMCA.

EwanG 15y ago

The service I am STILL looking for is one that will let me upload RAW, will allow end users to view them, and will let me pay some price (per picture if necessary) for permanent archival. IOW, I worry that about a year or so after I'm dead my last hard drive dies, and my digital pics going all the way back to my first Sony that used a 3.5 inch disk to take 640K photos are gone. I've thought about doing a mass conversion to JPEG, and then see if one of the public archive servers would take my collection, but I worry about how long it would take me to upload 2TB of photos. Alternately I could self-curate to get the collection size down, but I've learned over the years that sometimes a poor photo of something that ended up to be transitory is better than no photo at all.

rkalla 15y ago
EwanG, you must already know about SmugMug (as I imagine you've looked at all the image hosting services online multiple times if this is a big pain point), I'm curious why it wouldn't fit the bill? (I have absolutely no affiliation, shy of writing their Java API)
- EwanG 15y ago
  First off, it seems that lets me "store" a RAW but that I have to attach that to a JPEG. I'm lazy enough to want to be able to upload the RAW and have it do the conversion for me. Second, and the bigger problem for my use case, is that there is no "forever" or "lifetime" account option. I want something where I pay the equivalent for a few years cost, and then as long as I have someone who has the username and PW and checks in at least once a year, I don't have to pay again. So a $599 account that has the Pro options as a single payment. Of course cheaper would be fine too :-) Lastly, and this is probably "just me", I'd like something that will let me do at least simple retouches on my Motorola Xoom. Build the service, or get SmugMug to extend theirs, and let me know so I can sign up!