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The following is all just an opinion, and obviously this type of subject is a discussion. Doubly so because I'm white. I don't think anyone should pay any mor

The following is all just an opinion, and obviously this type of subject is a discussion. Doubly so because I'm white. I don't think anyone should pay any more than they benefitted from slavery. The average person has no ancestors who owned slaves, and the only benefits they got were things like cheaper goods and services. Added up over a lifetime, it's probably not a lot. But some people come from ancestors who made a LOT of money off slavery, and the benefits of that have been passed down to them one way or another. So I think different people should be in different brackets based off how much they benefitted from slavery, and those brackets should be proportion of wealth tax over 20-30 years. Not so much to bankrupt anyone, but enough to pay the off the debt. Also, I think it should be treated as the alpha version of UBI. Basically, the ancestors of slaves should be the first to get on the list for UBI because they're kind of opposites of each-other.

buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
> Doubly so because I'm white This is a logical fallacy (though a popular one). An idea is either good or bad. The traits of the person speaking the idea are irrelevant, and do not make a good idea bad, or a bad idea good. Further, an idea doesn't become more or less "subject to discussion" as a result of the race of the person speaking it.
- seph-reed 6y ago
  I agree strongly with what I'm saying, but seriously: there's a good chance of bias here, so it really should be a discussion including all sides. I'm basically claiming, ofc I think my idea is good, but I really don't want to assume it.
horns4lyfe 6y ago
We should probably also consider charging the Europeans that made vast wealth shipping slaves, and the Africans that profited from capturing and selling their countrymen.
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- gibreparations 6y ago
  Charging the individual Europeans / middle eastern people involved, or the nations? In the latter case, we can probably start collecting our reparations for the Barbary slave trades from the Arabs, and probably even make money! (Reparation arbitrage). I accept petrol or petrodollars. Check my bio for the paypal link.
chordalkeyboard 6y ago
> The average person has no ancestors who owned slaves, and the only benefits they got were things like cheaper goods and services. Added up over a lifetime, it's probably not a lot. The average person benefitted from compound accumulation of capital. After hundreds of years of compound interest, its probably unfathomably large. > But some people come from ancestors who made a LOT of money off slavery, and the benefits of that have been passed down to them one way or another. If those people can be identified then someone may lodge a claim against their assets. From what I learned in Black World Studies, the fruits of slavery are largely considered to have been spread through society in a way that can't be traced and reconstructed because everything is tainted.

buzzerbetrayed 6y ago

> Doubly so because I'm white This is a logical fallacy (though a popular one). An idea is either good or bad. The traits of the person speaking the idea are irrelevant, and do not make a good idea bad, or a bad idea good. Further, an idea doesn't become more or less "subject to discussion" as a result of the race of the person speaking it.

seph-reed 6y ago
I agree strongly with what I'm saying, but seriously: there's a good chance of bias here, so it really should be a discussion including all sides. I'm basically claiming, ofc I think my idea is good, but I really don't want to assume it.

horns4lyfe 6y ago

We should probably also consider charging the Europeans that made vast wealth shipping slaves, and the Africans that profited from capturing and selling their countrymen.

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gibreparations 6y ago
Charging the individual Europeans / middle eastern people involved, or the nations? In the latter case, we can probably start collecting our reparations for the Barbary slave trades from the Arabs, and probably even make money! (Reparation arbitrage). I accept petrol or petrodollars. Check my bio for the paypal link.

chordalkeyboard 6y ago

> The average person has no ancestors who owned slaves, and the only benefits they got were things like cheaper goods and services. Added up over a lifetime, it's probably not a lot. The average person benefitted from compound accumulation of capital. After hundreds of years of compound interest, its probably unfathomably large. > But some people come from ancestors who made a LOT of money off slavery, and the benefits of that have been passed down to them one way or another. If those people can be identified then someone may lodge a claim against their assets. From what I learned in Black World Studies, the fruits of slavery are largely considered to have been spread through society in a way that can't be traced and reconstructed because everything is tainted.