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> You do realize that every civilization that has ever existed has both enslaved others and been enslaved in the past, right? Do you realize that's an extraord

> You do realize that every civilization that has ever existed has both enslaved others and been enslaved in the past, right? Do you realize that's an extraordinary claim? You have proof for this, right?

SpaceRaccoon 6y ago
Not defending that guy's claim, but relevant: do you know where the word 'slave' comes from?
icebr9 6y ago
Well.. slaves comes from slavs how have been sold by Tatars. Here in my Slavic country we even have some classical books that write about slavery of our people
- knolax 6y ago
  Ah yes the two genders: American and Tatar.
thegrim33 6y ago
I know they don't teach real history in school or in the media anymore and you have an entirely skewed perception of history at this point, but it's the truth. Or course the word "every" is probably too much, because there's been exceptions. Just pick any random country/civilization and google "history of slavery in X". For example England, Ireland, Turkey, any country you enter, you'll find a history of it.
- rsynnott 6y ago
  > Ireland Warning; while there really was slavery in Ireland at one time (indeed Dublin was one of the biggest markets in Europe before the Normans suppressed it in the 12th century), if you Google for this you are likely to get a good bit of nonsense. Decent summary here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_slaves_myth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_slaves_myth
buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
This seems relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery Obviously GP's claim is a dumb one, because all you have to do is say "Here is one counter example, you're wrong". But looking at that page makes it very clear that slavery is a big part of most of world history.
olivermarks 6y ago
Simon Webb is interesting on slavery history, I'm waiting for his book on this topic to come out in digital format https://youtu.be/qhw1ATYxWcQ https://youtu.be/qhw1ATYxWcQ
redis_mlc 6y ago
The parent comment is ignorant and pedantic. Slavery was and is a traditional human activity, and has been for thousands of years. The Koran, written in the 7th century, glorifies slavery. The Nazis had tens of millions of slaves. (The French Resistance became active only after Sokel began enslaving all able-bodied French citizens, men and women.) After the EU border-free crossings started, UK business owners had slave camps for Poles. That was only 10-20 years ago. So before you go all SJW on HN, at least learn what you're talking about. The US is not uniquely evil because we had slaves. What is unique is that we had a civil war to free them, and that's lost in the SJW narrative.

SpaceRaccoon 6y ago

Not defending that guy's claim, but relevant: do you know where the word 'slave' comes from?

icebr9 6y ago

Well.. slaves comes from slavs how have been sold by Tatars. Here in my Slavic country we even have some classical books that write about slavery of our people

knolax 6y ago
Ah yes the two genders: American and Tatar.

thegrim33 6y ago

I know they don't teach real history in school or in the media anymore and you have an entirely skewed perception of history at this point, but it's the truth. Or course the word "every" is probably too much, because there's been exceptions. Just pick any random country/civilization and google "history of slavery in X". For example England, Ireland, Turkey, any country you enter, you'll find a history of it.

rsynnott 6y ago
> Ireland Warning; while there really was slavery in Ireland at one time (indeed Dublin was one of the biggest markets in Europe before the Normans suppressed it in the 12th century), if you Google for this you are likely to get a good bit of nonsense. Decent summary here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_slaves_myth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_slaves_myth

buzzerbetrayed 6y ago

This seems relevant: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery Obviously GP's claim is a dumb one, because all you have to do is say "Here is one counter example, you're wrong". But looking at that page makes it very clear that slavery is a big part of most of world history.

olivermarks 6y ago

Simon Webb is interesting on slavery history, I'm waiting for his book on this topic to come out in digital format https://youtu.be/qhw1ATYxWcQ https://youtu.be/qhw1ATYxWcQ

redis_mlc 6y ago

The parent comment is ignorant and pedantic. Slavery was and is a traditional human activity, and has been for thousands of years. The Koran, written in the 7th century, glorifies slavery. The Nazis had tens of millions of slaves. (The French Resistance became active only after Sokel began enslaving all able-bodied French citizens, men and women.) After the EU border-free crossings started, UK business owners had slave camps for Poles. That was only 10-20 years ago. So before you go all SJW on HN, at least learn what you're talking about. The US is not uniquely evil because we had slaves. What is unique is that we had a civil war to free them, and that's lost in the SJW narrative.