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> Since climate change is a non-local phenomenon you can be carbon negative for very cheap if you pay to reduce carbon emissions. How does that work in practic

> Since climate change is a non-local phenomenon you can be carbon negative for very cheap if you pay to reduce carbon emissions. How does that work in practical reality so it doesn't just turn into a money making scheme with no real impact akin to Catholic indulgences? > Also, it's a little bit rich to listen to any sort of climate talk from anyone in cold countries¹. They emit so much carbon just to be warm. Well, I don't, because I live in California. How many emissions in the US come from the use of AC and heating due to basically zero federal building standards for energy efficiency? [0] Afaik AC is generally considered way more inefficient, heating can be captured as a side-product from a lot of processes, cooling not so much. [0] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328701132_A_comparison_of_building_energy_codes_and_policies_in_the_USA_Germany_and_China_progress_toward_the_net-zero_building_goal_in_three_countries https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328701132_A_compari...

renewiltord 6y ago
> How does that work in practical reality so it doesn't just turn into a money making scheme with no real impact akin to Catholic indulgences? As a matter of policy? Universal carbon-tax with increasing fee schedules. Everyone pays for their carbon emissions. The sum is then distributed back to everyone evenly as a Green Dividend minus admin costs. Net zero cash to the government, whopping undirected green energy subsidy possible by tuning amounts. It already worked for Sulphur Dioxide. As a matter of personal preference? Well, I get nothing from this except the right to brag I'm carbon negative so really it could totally be equivalent to indulgences. As it so happens I do care to be doing my part, but you're right in that there's no incentive for that. > How many emissions in the US come from the use of AC and heating due to basically zero federal building standards for energy efficiency? Right, but I live in California and have no AC.
- dash2 6y ago
  I think the practical question is, how do you know when you buy carbon offsets that you are really offsetting carbon? There's an awful lot of scope for fakery out there.
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    I trust TerraPass because I can go see their stuff.

renewiltord 6y ago

> How does that work in practical reality so it doesn't just turn into a money making scheme with no real impact akin to Catholic indulgences? As a matter of policy? Universal carbon-tax with increasing fee schedules. Everyone pays for their carbon emissions. The sum is then distributed back to everyone evenly as a Green Dividend minus admin costs. Net zero cash to the government, whopping undirected green energy subsidy possible by tuning amounts. It already worked for Sulphur Dioxide. As a matter of personal preference? Well, I get nothing from this except the right to brag I'm carbon negative so really it could totally be equivalent to indulgences. As it so happens I do care to be doing my part, but you're right in that there's no incentive for that. > How many emissions in the US come from the use of AC and heating due to basically zero federal building standards for energy efficiency? Right, but I live in California and have no AC.

dash2 6y ago
I think the practical question is, how do you know when you buy carbon offsets that you are really offsetting carbon? There's an awful lot of scope for fakery out there.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  I trust TerraPass because I can go see their stuff.