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Consistent with the "Most Secure Election Ever" (tm) claims, Dominion Voting Systems use SolarWinds' Orion platform, too. [0] [0]: https://www.theepochtimes.co

Consistent with the "Most Secure Election Ever" (tm) claims, Dominion Voting Systems use SolarWinds' Orion platform, too. [0] [0]: https://www.theepochtimes.com/dominion-voting-systems-uses-firm-that-was-hacked_3617507.html https://www.theepochtimes.com/dominion-voting-systems-uses-f...

disgrunt 6y ago
And possibly related news? [0] [0]: https://www.theepochtimes.com/crucial-logs-missing-from-antrim-county-dominion-voting-machines-forensics-report_3617768.html https://www.theepochtimes.com/crucial-logs-missing-from-antr...
- Aperocky 6y ago
  Epoch Times. It's like Fox but turned up to 11. Their origin story read like how we supported the original mujahideen in Afghanistan. We all knew how that turned out.
  - disgrunt 6y ago
    Ok, want to login to Dominion Voting Systems' SolarWinds instance? Here you go. So much for "powering it off"... [0] [0]: https://dvsfileshare.dominionvoting.com/Web%20Client/Mobile/MLogin.htm https://dvsfileshare.dominionvoting.com/Web%20Client/Mobile/...
  - AnthonyMouse 6y ago
    Is the story actually false or is this just an ad hominem attack?
    - Aperocky 6y ago
      It is not an ad hominem attack when accurately describing the well known attribute of the source. The story also turned out to be not necessarily true, from another comment.
      - AnthonyMouse 6y ago
        > It is not an ad hominem attack when accurately describing the well known attribute of the source. That is literally what an ad hominem attack is. Attacking the source instead of the claim. > The story also turned out to be not necessarily true, from another comment. The other comment doesn't actually contradict the story, though it is pertinent information. The story discusses the problems with Orion and points out that Dominion uses SolarWinds software, with a link to the page where they use SolarWinds Serv-U. That doesn't necessarily mean they also use Orion, but the article doesn't claim that. Interestingly (?) they just changed the linked page in response to the story. It no longer contains the SolarWinds logo when it did earlier: http://web.archive.org/web/20201214102053/https://dvsfileshare.dominionvoting.com/Web%20Client/Mobile/MLogin.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20201214102053/https://dvsfilesha... I don't understand why people think doing things like that helps them. Of all the election fraud claims, the Dominion Hugo Chavez bit is the furthest out in conspiracy theory land, and then they do things like that which are just going to end up on Glenn Beck's nightly rant.
user764743 6y ago
That is Serv-U, not Orion. [0] You might want to avoid The Epoch Times as a source of information in the future, they are unreliable. [1] [0] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/12/u-s-treasury-commerce-depts-hacked-through-solarwinds-compromise/comment-page-1/#comment-523596 https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/12/u-s-treasury-commerce-de... [1] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/
- AnthonyMouse 6y ago
  > That is Serv-U, not Orion. The next question is obviously whether they use Orion in addition to Serv-U. Or whether the Serv-U updater was compromised in addition to Orion. > You might want to avoid The Epoch Times as a source of information in the future, they are unreliable. Note that they get the same rating ("MIXED") as CNN, MSNBC and Fox News: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msnbc/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msnbc/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/ Not that this is any kind of ringing endorsement of The Epoch Times.
chance_state 6y ago
Hugo Chavez hacked our election from the grave. Oh and he also manufactured millions of paper ballots that match the electionic tabulation almost perfectly. The deep state is deeper than we thought!
Fjolsvith 6y ago
Considering the EO regarding elections [1], SolarWinds is in trouble. 1. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-or...

disgrunt 6y ago

And possibly related news? [0] [0]: https://www.theepochtimes.com/crucial-logs-missing-from-antrim-county-dominion-voting-machines-forensics-report_3617768.html https://www.theepochtimes.com/crucial-logs-missing-from-antr...

Aperocky 6y ago
Epoch Times. It's like Fox but turned up to 11. Their origin story read like how we supported the original mujahideen in Afghanistan. We all knew how that turned out.
- disgrunt 6y ago
  Ok, want to login to Dominion Voting Systems' SolarWinds instance? Here you go. So much for "powering it off"... [0] [0]: https://dvsfileshare.dominionvoting.com/Web%20Client/Mobile/MLogin.htm https://dvsfileshare.dominionvoting.com/Web%20Client/Mobile/...
- AnthonyMouse 6y ago
  Is the story actually false or is this just an ad hominem attack?
  - Aperocky 6y ago
    It is not an ad hominem attack when accurately describing the well known attribute of the source. The story also turned out to be not necessarily true, from another comment.
    - AnthonyMouse 6y ago
      > It is not an ad hominem attack when accurately describing the well known attribute of the source. That is literally what an ad hominem attack is. Attacking the source instead of the claim. > The story also turned out to be not necessarily true, from another comment. The other comment doesn't actually contradict the story, though it is pertinent information. The story discusses the problems with Orion and points out that Dominion uses SolarWinds software, with a link to the page where they use SolarWinds Serv-U. That doesn't necessarily mean they also use Orion, but the article doesn't claim that. Interestingly (?) they just changed the linked page in response to the story. It no longer contains the SolarWinds logo when it did earlier: http://web.archive.org/web/20201214102053/https://dvsfileshare.dominionvoting.com/Web%20Client/Mobile/MLogin.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20201214102053/https://dvsfilesha... I don't understand why people think doing things like that helps them. Of all the election fraud claims, the Dominion Hugo Chavez bit is the furthest out in conspiracy theory land, and then they do things like that which are just going to end up on Glenn Beck's nightly rant.

user764743 6y ago

That is Serv-U, not Orion. [0] You might want to avoid The Epoch Times as a source of information in the future, they are unreliable. [1] [0] https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/12/u-s-treasury-commerce-depts-hacked-through-solarwinds-compromise/comment-page-1/#comment-523596 https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/12/u-s-treasury-commerce-de... [1] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/

AnthonyMouse 6y ago
> That is Serv-U, not Orion. The next question is obviously whether they use Orion in addition to Serv-U. Or whether the Serv-U updater was compromised in addition to Orion. > You might want to avoid The Epoch Times as a source of information in the future, they are unreliable. Note that they get the same rating ("MIXED") as CNN, MSNBC and Fox News: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/cnn/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msnbc/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/msnbc/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news/ Not that this is any kind of ringing endorsement of The Epoch Times.

chance_state 6y ago

Hugo Chavez hacked our election from the grave. Oh and he also manufactured millions of paper ballots that match the electionic tabulation almost perfectly. The deep state is deeper than we thought!

Fjolsvith 6y ago

Considering the EO regarding elections [1], SolarWinds is in trouble. 1. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-or...