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Why are there so many people who absolutely deny Russia does any hacking. It's always some big conspiracy theory that multiple cyber security agencies, all the
by icedistilled 6y ago
Why are there so many people who absolutely deny Russia does any hacking.
It's always some big conspiracy theory that multiple cyber security agencies, all the three letter agencies, and multiple news agencies are in on.
I'd bring up tin foil hats, but nowadays we can make fabric faraday cages so we can all be fashionable no matter what we believe.
- njharman 6y ago> Why are there so many people who absolutely deny Russia does any hacking. Because there are many people paid to do so. (and soon if not already automated bots).
- La1n 6y agoNot everyone who questions something is a paid shill.
- blunte 6y agoThe beauty, from a nefarious standpoint, is that you don't have to pay people to spread disinformation. You just have to use the right psych techniques on them and ensure they get proper reinforcement. These are the techniques that have turned my family and many of their friends (and clearly a measurable percentage of Americans) into the exact opposite of the values they taught me and demonstrated for decades. They truly believe virtually anything spoken by people like Limbaugh, Glenn, Orielly, Carlson, etc. If you try to use some logic or evidence, even showing two conflicting statements made by one of those idols, they just shut down. The cognitive dissonance is too uncomfortable.
- dragonsky 6y agoYou might want to explain who Limbaugh, Glenn, Orielly, Carlson etc are for those of use outside of the US bubble
- ehsankia 6y agoI'm curious, are people saying that "Russia doesn't do any hacking" or that "there isn't yet enough evidence that this specific attack is by Russia". Those are two very different claims. I don't think there's any doubt about the former claim, personally. The latter though, I think it's too early to tell, especially since we've seen recently how certain hackers have explicitly started putting bait signs from other nation-states to misdirect.
- AnthonyMouse 6y ago> The latter though, I think it's too early to tell, especially since we've seen recently how certain hackers have explicitly started putting bait signs from other nation-states to misdirect. Has there been any indication at all that it was Russia in particular? A lot of people believe it was a state-level attacker based on the sophistication of the attack, but even conceding that doesn't make Russia the only alternative.
- jeffreyrogers 6y agoHe's not denying Russia does hacking. He's saying there is no evidence that ties this to Russia over any other group. Maybe Russia is most likely based on priors, but I don't think the average HN commenter has an accurate estimate of nation-state hacking frequencies.
- Throwaway1771 6y ago"Attribution is hard."
- jessaustin 6y agoSometimes it seems there's a related law that has replaced the one you cite: "When in doubt, blame Russia."
- Throwaway1771 6y ago> some big conspiracy theory that multiple cyber security agencies, all the three letter agencies, and multiple news agencies are in on. So...Operation Mockingbird?
- bosswipe 6y agoIt's just a necessary conspiracy if you're fully bought into the Trump victimhood worldview.
- j0ba 6y agoRight. If you don't accept it was the Russians, you're a fucking Trump supporter!
- blunte 6y agoThis isn't the only area where otherwise sane, normal people seem to have lost their minds. There's a term from a few years ago - "Foxbrain".
- lionkor 6y agoRussians do a lot of hacking. It doesnt mean its the government or any official body, though. The non-stop, partially unfounded russia bashing and excessive repeated sanctioning is pissing off a LOT of highly skilled russian programmers. I dont think the russian goverment is behind most attacks.