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Fire suppression systems fail, cars get recalled or malfunction, people get food poisoning in restaurants or from food bought at a supermarket. Any product, not

Fire suppression systems fail, cars get recalled or malfunction, people get food poisoning in restaurants or from food bought at a supermarket. Any product, not just tech, runs into problems when manufactured at scale. Tech is more visible because it is newer and in the spotlight. Nobody says "stop manufacturing cars" when one manufacturer issues a safety recall because cars have been around so long. The entire premise of producing 100X fewer cars so we can hand-craft cars and hand-check them is ridiculous - we simply accept the occasional manufacturing defect or product recall as the rates at which they happen are so small. These are all rounding errors, and the benefits of scale far outweigh the cons. The same applies to tech. Content moderation has been ~solved as well. The overwhelming majority of content on social media platforms, websites, etc is regular, legal content. The illegal content that makes it through the filters and stays up for a significant period of time is a rounding error.

preinheimer 6y ago
> Content moderation has been ~solved as well. I strongly disagree. Pornhub just purged 10 million videos because they couldn't moderate out child porn and rape videos. There's terrible content all over Facebook - Using Facebook's own numbers ~750,000 instances of "child nudity and sexual exploitation" were reported by users before being removed in Q3 2020. https://transparency.facebook.com/community-standards-enforcement#child-nudity-and-sexual-exploitation https://transparency.facebook.com/community-standards-enforc... - Facebook’s improved AI isn’t preventing harmful content from spreading https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/19/facebooks-improved-ai-isnt-preventing-harmful-content-from-spreading/ https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/19/facebooks-improved-ai-isn... - Despite Facebook ban on Holocaust denial, it’s still easy to find https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/despite-facebook-ban-on-holocaust-denial-its-still-easy-to-find-650292 https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/despite-facebook-ban-on-holoc...
- ardy42 6y ago
  >> Content moderation has been ~solved as well. > I strongly disagree. Pornhub just purged 10 million videos because they couldn't moderate out child porn and rape videos. PornHub is not a good example here. Reactive content moderation doesn't work for porn, because it's too hard to distinguish a positive from a negative. Content moderation for porn has probably been solved...by using a per-clearance model coupled with strong identity verification. > There's terrible content all over Facebook That's probably true, but the worst appears to be much harder to find. It's a lot easier to detect and ban all porn (especially if you can ban all nudity) than just certain heinous kinds of porn specifically. > - Facebook’s improved AI isn’t preventing harmful content from spreading https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/19/facebooks-improved-ai-isn https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/19/facebooks-improved-ai-isn... > - Despite Facebook ban on Holocaust denial, it’s still easy to find https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/despite-facebook-ban-on-holoc https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/despite-facebook-ban-on-holoc... Facebook seems to have more problems with trickier things, like hate speech, holocaust denial, and mis/disinformation. We have pretty good technology now for recognizing things in images, but we don't nearly technology that good for understanding the meaning of speech and text.

preinheimer 6y ago

> Content moderation has been ~solved as well. I strongly disagree. Pornhub just purged 10 million videos because they couldn't moderate out child porn and rape videos. There's terrible content all over Facebook - Using Facebook's own numbers ~750,000 instances of "child nudity and sexual exploitation" were reported by users before being removed in Q3 2020. https://transparency.facebook.com/community-standards-enforcement#child-nudity-and-sexual-exploitation https://transparency.facebook.com/community-standards-enforc... - Facebook’s improved AI isn’t preventing harmful content from spreading https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/19/facebooks-improved-ai-isnt-preventing-harmful-content-from-spreading/ https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/19/facebooks-improved-ai-isn... - Despite Facebook ban on Holocaust denial, it’s still easy to find https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/despite-facebook-ban-on-holocaust-denial-its-still-easy-to-find-650292 https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/despite-facebook-ban-on-holoc...

ardy42 6y ago
>> Content moderation has been ~solved as well. > I strongly disagree. Pornhub just purged 10 million videos because they couldn't moderate out child porn and rape videos. PornHub is not a good example here. Reactive content moderation doesn't work for porn, because it's too hard to distinguish a positive from a negative. Content moderation for porn has probably been solved...by using a per-clearance model coupled with strong identity verification. > There's terrible content all over Facebook That's probably true, but the worst appears to be much harder to find. It's a lot easier to detect and ban all porn (especially if you can ban all nudity) than just certain heinous kinds of porn specifically. > - Facebook’s improved AI isn’t preventing harmful content from spreading https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/19/facebooks-improved-ai-isn https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/19/facebooks-improved-ai-isn... > - Despite Facebook ban on Holocaust denial, it’s still easy to find https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/despite-facebook-ban-on-holoc https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/despite-facebook-ban-on-holoc... Facebook seems to have more problems with trickier things, like hate speech, holocaust denial, and mis/disinformation. We have pretty good technology now for recognizing things in images, but we don't nearly technology that good for understanding the meaning of speech and text.