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I usually think these "Google is the worst" posts are over the top, but I genuinely find Gmail's mobile interface bewildering. There are two three-dot/ellipsis

I usually think these "Google is the worst" posts are over the top, but I genuinely find Gmail's mobile interface bewildering. There are two three-dot/ellipsis icons when you read an email and after using mobile Gmail for years I have no idea which actions are in which. "Move to Inbox": upper icon. "Add star": lower icon. "Mark important": upper icon. "Mark unread": lower icon. I'm sure there's some explanation or at least mnemonic but I'm lost.

TerminalWarrior 6y ago
They are SO over the top. Every single interface is fine. Never have I not been able to figure something out at WORST with a quick Google search. HN has a few reactions that I will never understand. The idea that they are being "tracked" against their will, that Google has bad UI and that Bitcoin is worthless. I just chalk it up to smart people thinking they should be smart about everything.
_iyig 6y ago
One of many reasons I’ve stuck with the default “Mail” app on iOS. Labeling, attachments, search, etc. all work fine. I manage my filters (an infrequent task) through the desktop web interface. The Mail app UI hasn’t changed much in the last ten years. If Google ever breaks plain old IMAP support, I’ll complete my migration to Fastmail.
richardfey 6y ago
There's three if you count Chrome's one
jeffbee 6y ago
That's just a reflection of the data model, which is internally consistent but probably doesn't exist in the minds of all users. The reason "move to [label]" is at the top of the screen is because that action affects the whole thread, not one message in the thread. Star is attached to a message or a thread, so that should be in both menus, but in practice the mobile (iOS) app only lets you star a thread from the threadlist, while desktop web lets you star a thread while reading it. This is inconsistent. Important is again in the thread's menu because it's an attribute of threads, not messages. Read-ness is again an aspect of messages, not threads.

TerminalWarrior 6y ago

They are SO over the top. Every single interface is fine. Never have I not been able to figure something out at WORST with a quick Google search. HN has a few reactions that I will never understand. The idea that they are being "tracked" against their will, that Google has bad UI and that Bitcoin is worthless. I just chalk it up to smart people thinking they should be smart about everything.

_iyig 6y ago

One of many reasons I’ve stuck with the default “Mail” app on iOS. Labeling, attachments, search, etc. all work fine. I manage my filters (an infrequent task) through the desktop web interface. The Mail app UI hasn’t changed much in the last ten years. If Google ever breaks plain old IMAP support, I’ll complete my migration to Fastmail.

richardfey 6y ago

There's three if you count Chrome's one

jeffbee 6y ago

That's just a reflection of the data model, which is internally consistent but probably doesn't exist in the minds of all users. The reason "move to [label]" is at the top of the screen is because that action affects the whole thread, not one message in the thread. Star is attached to a message or a thread, so that should be in both menus, but in practice the mobile (iOS) app only lets you star a thread from the threadlist, while desktop web lets you star a thread while reading it. This is inconsistent. Important is again in the thread's menu because it's an attribute of threads, not messages. Read-ness is again an aspect of messages, not threads.