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Is there any actual evidence that his was Russia? All I've seen so far is solarWinds unsubstantiated claim.

jorblumesea 6y ago
Attribution is very difficult in this space. According to most articles I've read, senior officials believe it's Russia (and it makes sense given the scope/scale) but smoking guns are hard to find.
- jeffreyrogers 6y ago
  The Russia attribution track record is not very good. E.g. that Afghanistan bounty story appears doubtful and many of the earlier allegations of ties between the Trump administration and Russia were not substantiated. Not that Russia is not a threat to the US, but there is a sizable part of the federal bureaucracy that wants to pin things on Russia for various reasons (it's not all anti-Trump either). Edit: Downvoters, feel free to prove me wrong. Here's one source for my claims[0] [0]: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-commander-intel-still-hasn-t-established-russia-paid-n1240020 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-comma...
thisisdallas 6y ago
No, not at all. It's political theatre the media is playing. Russia has been the big bad wolf since 2016. It's far more likely China than Russia, although it could be a variety of different states/parties.
- outworlder 6y ago
  > Russia has been the big bad wolf since 2016. For a very good reason.
  - realmod 6y ago
    I still cannot help but laugh at the intentional ignorance by a lot of people in the US right now. They have for some reason (we all know why) gotten the notion that Russia is some kind of innocent nation that does nothing at all and that US is unreasonably antagonistic against Russia. Russia is in NO uncertain terms a hostile and aggressive nation that we all need to be wary of.
    - pessimizer 6y ago
      This is content-free. It's the equivalent of replying to somebody who says "I don't think X committed this murder" with "So you think that X is a saint and can do no wrong?"
miguelmota 6y ago
It’s not fully confirmed yet but its probable it’s the same 'Cozy Bear' Russian hack group that hacked the State Department and White House email servers during Obama administration.

Attribution is very difficult in this space. According to most articles I've read, senior officials believe it's Russia (and it makes sense given the scope/scale) but smoking guns are hard to find.

jeffreyrogers 6y ago
The Russia attribution track record is not very good. E.g. that Afghanistan bounty story appears doubtful and many of the earlier allegations of ties between the Trump administration and Russia were not substantiated. Not that Russia is not a threat to the US, but there is a sizable part of the federal bureaucracy that wants to pin things on Russia for various reasons (it's not all anti-Trump either). Edit: Downvoters, feel free to prove me wrong. Here's one source for my claims[0] [0]: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-commander-intel-still-hasn-t-established-russia-paid-n1240020 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-comma...

thisisdallas 6y ago

No, not at all. It's political theatre the media is playing. Russia has been the big bad wolf since 2016. It's far more likely China than Russia, although it could be a variety of different states/parties.

outworlder 6y ago
> Russia has been the big bad wolf since 2016. For a very good reason.
- realmod 6y ago
  I still cannot help but laugh at the intentional ignorance by a lot of people in the US right now. They have for some reason (we all know why) gotten the notion that Russia is some kind of innocent nation that does nothing at all and that US is unreasonably antagonistic against Russia. Russia is in NO uncertain terms a hostile and aggressive nation that we all need to be wary of.
  - pessimizer 6y ago
    This is content-free. It's the equivalent of replying to somebody who says "I don't think X committed this murder" with "So you think that X is a saint and can do no wrong?"

miguelmota 6y ago

It’s not fully confirmed yet but its probable it’s the same 'Cozy Bear' Russian hack group that hacked the State Department and White House email servers during Obama administration.