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Hopefully not a single org, or any org. But like I said, it's not easy to solve socially. The main point is to somehow get paid without advertising (Which alrea

by mrloba 6y ago

Hopefully not a single org, or any org. But like I said, it's not easy to solve socially. The main point is to somehow get paid without advertising (Which already exists, it's just that people won't pay individually for every service on the internet. At least that's my assumption).

ev1 6y ago
The hardest part is probably how you would handle payments. I'm happy to pay for things like newspaper site subscriptions - I just don't want to give my card or any identifying information to known spammers, 30-days-to-unsubscribe data-sellers, and hostile companies that refuse to allow you to cancel subscriptions other than calling them during a 1 hour timespan once a week. I'd be happy to throw $0.25 at a single article with no advertising or tracking and without leaking any identifying information at all - that means I have balance stored somehow, and I do not want to give even an email address [they've already shown that they cannot be trusted with it, much less anything else]. For example, NYT allows Californians purely because of the law that requires you to be able to sign up online -> cancel online only has this turned on if you have a CA billing address and CA geoip. This is hostile, asshole design. The code is there already, the implementation is there already, they just require everyone in every other state to call in during tight hours if not absolutely forced to via regulation. Blizzard/EA: Call of Duty has an option to opt out of selling your personal information. This option is only visible to be modified at all (not disabled - just gone entirely) if you are on a CA IP. If you ever log in once from another machine or another location, it's reset to retroactively sell all information and also not shown on the options menu. Excessively heavy handed legal controls are needed because nobody can fucking behave.

by mrloba 6y ago

ev1 6y ago

The hardest part is probably how you would handle payments. I'm happy to pay for things like newspaper site subscriptions - I just don't want to give my card or any identifying information to known spammers, 30-days-to-unsubscribe data-sellers, and hostile companies that refuse to allow you to cancel subscriptions other than calling them during a 1 hour timespan once a week. I'd be happy to throw $0.25 at a single article with no advertising or tracking and without leaking any identifying information at all - that means I have balance stored somehow, and I do not want to give even an email address [they've already shown that they cannot be trusted with it, much less anything else]. For example, NYT allows Californians purely because of the law that requires you to be able to sign up online -> cancel online only has this turned on if you have a CA billing address and CA geoip. This is hostile, asshole design. The code is there already, the implementation is there already, they just require everyone in every other state to call in during tight hours if not absolutely forced to via regulation. Blizzard/EA: Call of Duty has an option to opt out of selling your personal information. This option is only visible to be modified at all (not disabled - just gone entirely) if you are on a CA IP. If you ever log in once from another machine or another location, it's reset to retroactively sell all information and also not shown on the options menu. Excessively heavy handed legal controls are needed because nobody can fucking behave.