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Would you also be able to run some of these? They're publicly available; the more datasets we have the better picture we get.

by gzer0 6y ago

merdadicapra 6y ago
I've tried But the instructions are not clear. Take for example the `als` benchmark for java renaissance. It has a lot of options, one of them used to not force GC. Was it set? What version of Java? I'm running openjdk 11. When I launched it it gave me this warning 20/12/14 18:55:20 WARN NativeCodeLoader: Unable to load native-hadoop library for your platform... using builtin-java classes where applicable Would a native hadoop library make a difference? And how much? There are other warnings complaining about lacking some additional library and switching to default, but what really surprised me is that on this particular laptop that mounts an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz with 8 cores, a CPU at least 5 years old, I could beat the i9 benchmark. The `als` benchmark for the i9 completed in 3581.838 ms, on my (very old) laptop the running time was 3533.964 ms. Raw data from here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g4U7LAImfEcXRihJbySZcRr32tn6WSWAtslfXltds58/edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g4U7LAImfEcXRihJbySZ...) Tab "Java Renaissance (Chart)" Col O, Row 4
sdflhasjd 6y ago
So, I picked out a couple that I could run without installing too much extra: Ryzen 3900X: antd-admin webpack build: ~23 seconds. Not surprising, it's just single core. golang.org/x/benchmarks, BenchmarkBuild-8: 4.61 seconds, so far off the value of 19.65s in the article that I feel I'm getting some suspicions confirmed...
- outworlder 6y ago
  > that I feel I'm getting some suspicions confirmed... Be careful. Benchmarking is hard. Before assuming malice, try to control for other variables.
- merb 6y ago
  well he used bad ram and didn't specify his ssd. basically compilation is cpu+ssd+memory so if one of these suck you get what he did. a good cpu with garbage components. not sure why somebody buys an X5xx mainboard and uses 3200mhz memory (which he hopefully ran in dual channel...) also my macbook pro is slower.
  - zamalek 6y ago
    > not sure why somebody buys an X5xx mainboard and uses 3200mhz memory Because of the assumption that expensive is better. For those who don't know: X5xx boards are better for overclocking as they typically have better VRMs (stable on-board power supply). In addition those boards have better memory traces, increasing the chances that you can overclock memory (beyond XMP) and tighten memory timings. On my 3950x this all resulted in about a 15% performance uplift (compared to XMP enabled alone). If Apple were to ever use AMD hardware, they would likely use a B450 - it is perfectly capable of running all the components to spec.
africanboy 6y ago
I've tried But the instructions are not clear. Take for example the als benchmark for java renaissance. It has a lot of options, one of them used to not force GC. Was it set? What version of Java? I'm running openjdk 11. When I launched it it gave me this warning 20/12/14 18:55:20 WARN NativeCodeLoader: Unable to load native-hadoop library for your platform... using builtin-java classes where applicable Would a native hadoop library make a difference? And how much? There are other warnings complaining about lacking some additional library and switching to default, but what really surprised me is that on this particular laptop that mounts an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz with 8 cores, a CPU at least 5 years old, I could beat the i9 benchmark. The als benchmark for the i9 completed in 3581.838 ms, on my (very old) laptop the running time was 3533.964 ms. Raw data from here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g4U7LAImfEcXRihJbySZ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g4U7LAImfEcXRihJbySZ...) Tab "Java Renaissance (Chart)" Col O, Row 4

Would you also be able to run some of these? They're publicly available; the more datasets we have the better picture we get.

by gzer0 6y ago

Would you also be able to run some of these? They're publicly available; the more datasets we have the better picture we get.

merdadicapra 6y ago

I've tried But the instructions are not clear. Take for example the `als` benchmark for java renaissance. It has a lot of options, one of them used to not force GC. Was it set? What version of Java? I'm running openjdk 11. When I launched it it gave me this warning 20/12/14 18:55:20 WARN NativeCodeLoader: Unable to load native-hadoop library for your platform... using builtin-java classes where applicable Would a native hadoop library make a difference? And how much? There are other warnings complaining about lacking some additional library and switching to default, but what really surprised me is that on this particular laptop that mounts an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz with 8 cores, a CPU at least 5 years old, I could beat the i9 benchmark. The `als` benchmark for the i9 completed in 3581.838 ms, on my (very old) laptop the running time was 3533.964 ms. Raw data from here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g4U7LAImfEcXRihJbySZcRr32tn6WSWAtslfXltds58/edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g4U7LAImfEcXRihJbySZ...) Tab "Java Renaissance (Chart)" Col O, Row 4

sdflhasjd 6y ago

So, I picked out a couple that I could run without installing too much extra: Ryzen 3900X: antd-admin webpack build: ~23 seconds. Not surprising, it's just single core. golang.org/x/benchmarks, BenchmarkBuild-8: 4.61 seconds, so far off the value of 19.65s in the article that I feel I'm getting some suspicions confirmed...

outworlder 6y ago
> that I feel I'm getting some suspicions confirmed... Be careful. Benchmarking is hard. Before assuming malice, try to control for other variables.
merb 6y ago
well he used bad ram and didn't specify his ssd. basically compilation is cpu+ssd+memory so if one of these suck you get what he did. a good cpu with garbage components. not sure why somebody buys an X5xx mainboard and uses 3200mhz memory (which he hopefully ran in dual channel...) also my macbook pro is slower.
- zamalek 6y ago
  > not sure why somebody buys an X5xx mainboard and uses 3200mhz memory Because of the assumption that expensive is better. For those who don't know: X5xx boards are better for overclocking as they typically have better VRMs (stable on-board power supply). In addition those boards have better memory traces, increasing the chances that you can overclock memory (beyond XMP) and tighten memory timings. On my 3950x this all resulted in about a 15% performance uplift (compared to XMP enabled alone). If Apple were to ever use AMD hardware, they would likely use a B450 - it is perfectly capable of running all the components to spec.

africanboy 6y ago

I've tried But the instructions are not clear. Take for example the als benchmark for java renaissance. It has a lot of options, one of them used to not force GC. Was it set? What version of Java? I'm running openjdk 11. When I launched it it gave me this warning 20/12/14 18:55:20 WARN NativeCodeLoader: Unable to load native-hadoop library for your platform... using builtin-java classes where applicable Would a native hadoop library make a difference? And how much? There are other warnings complaining about lacking some additional library and switching to default, but what really surprised me is that on this particular laptop that mounts an Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HQ CPU @ 2.70GHz with 8 cores, a CPU at least 5 years old, I could beat the i9 benchmark. The als benchmark for the i9 completed in 3581.838 ms, on my (very old) laptop the running time was 3533.964 ms. Raw data from here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g4U7LAImfEcXRihJbySZ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g4U7LAImfEcXRihJbySZ...) Tab "Java Renaissance (Chart)" Col O, Row 4