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> Comparing to Reddit though, I think it's fairer to say something like 'if someone opened a cafe where paedophiles liked to hang out and chat'. The difference

> Comparing to Reddit though, I think it's fairer to say something like 'if someone opened a cafe where paedophiles liked to hang out and chat'. The difference here is Reddit content is persistent and public. If you are in a cafe, your conversations are transient and can only be overheard by your nearest neighbor. Your cafe would have to have a bulletin board or file cabinets where descriptions of content is posted along with where you can get it. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't last too long either.

OJFord 6y ago
Hmm.. Or a 'graffiti wall' where customers are allowed to contribute to the cafes eclectic art, but it's not exactly curated? What I'm getting at is Reddit wasn't started with the idea that it had to vet content, if you put the responsibility for content on the website owner/operator.. I'm not saying it's wrong, but I think it's hard to draw a parallel on the high street, just because of the scale of the internet I suppose. A debate society perhaps, that keeps rigorous records - in parliament for example, if a Member said something egregious they'd be personally called out on it, apologies (or resignation) demanded, etc. - but it wouldn't be struck from record. People might also think the Speaker ought to have stepped in sooner, etc., but then I suppose that's the problem again - there is and always has been the expectation of moderation there, the record keeping isn't some passive web form -> database, it's human presence. (I'm honestly not sure where I stand on it, I'm not arguing one way or the other; just thinking - and putting those thoughts into a passive web form -> database that has only some light retrospective moderation. ;))
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  > What I'm getting at is Reddit wasn't started with the idea that it had to vet content, if you put the responsibility for content on the website owner/operator.. I'm not saying it's wrong, but I think it's hard to draw a parallel on the high street, just because of the scale of the internet I suppose. Scale seems to be the recurring theme of defense of illicit content. I think that's backwards. The scale of these platforms means they have an obligation to be more vigilant.

OJFord 6y ago

Hmm.. Or a 'graffiti wall' where customers are allowed to contribute to the cafes eclectic art, but it's not exactly curated? What I'm getting at is Reddit wasn't started with the idea that it had to vet content, if you put the responsibility for content on the website owner/operator.. I'm not saying it's wrong, but I think it's hard to draw a parallel on the high street, just because of the scale of the internet I suppose. A debate society perhaps, that keeps rigorous records - in parliament for example, if a Member said something egregious they'd be personally called out on it, apologies (or resignation) demanded, etc. - but it wouldn't be struck from record. People might also think the Speaker ought to have stepped in sooner, etc., but then I suppose that's the problem again - there is and always has been the expectation of moderation there, the record keeping isn't some passive web form -> database, it's human presence. (I'm honestly not sure where I stand on it, I'm not arguing one way or the other; just thinking - and putting those thoughts into a passive web form -> database that has only some light retrospective moderation. ;))

ogre_codes 6y ago
> What I'm getting at is Reddit wasn't started with the idea that it had to vet content, if you put the responsibility for content on the website owner/operator.. I'm not saying it's wrong, but I think it's hard to draw a parallel on the high street, just because of the scale of the internet I suppose. Scale seems to be the recurring theme of defense of illicit content. I think that's backwards. The scale of these platforms means they have an obligation to be more vigilant.