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You're talking past me. I'm not denying that these people are leftists, I'm saying that it doesn't matter. There's nothing wrong with quoting a leftist in a rig
by amadeuspagel 6y ago
You're talking past me. I'm not denying that these people are leftists, I'm saying that it doesn't matter. There's nothing wrong with quoting a leftist in a rightist argument (or vice versa).
- nefitty 6y agoThis situation reminds me more of like when Bruce Springsteen objected to Trump using the song Born in the USA. Springsteen is alive to object. Camus isn’t alive to object, but looking at his past thinking, it’s not far fetched to presume that he would object to use of his art and writing to reinforce the arguments of political figures with opposing viewpoints.
- fjdjsmsm 6y agoExcept it isn’t about quoting. Many on the right claim that Orwell, Camus, etc were in-fact right wing and hated the left because they disagreed with extremist Stalinists and such. It is much like religious people claiming Einstein was religious. It seems to be a common tactic to rebrand people as believing in the opposite of what they did.
- amadeuspagel 6y agoIt is very much about quoting. Gingrich did not say that Camus was right wing. Nor have I ever heard that claim.
- cambalache 6y agoCamus was a leftist who was against Stalinism, I am pretty sure he would have abhorred the Cultural Revolution in China and the woke brigade now.
- fjdjsmsm 6y agoSo, Maoism and ‘the woke brigade’ are the same thing? This is exactly my point. Thanks.
- cambalache 6y agoIf you dont like vanilla and you dont like chocolate are both those the same thing? This your standard of debate. Camus, a free-thinker, womanizer, pied-noir,who reached across the aisle during the war writing to a German friend, it is the antithesis of the current woke, liberal,sex-repressed,pro-foreign-intervention, cancel-everybody-who-dares-to-think-different-to-me woke crowd so common in Twitter and here.