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> I've stopped using heating altogether > heating XXX cubic meters of air is a pure waste of energy Tell me how you feel about that when the water in your pip

> I've stopped using heating altogether > heating XXX cubic meters of air is a pure waste of energy Tell me how you feel about that when the water in your pipes freezes. Because that is sure as hell not a good time.

lm28469 6y ago
Of course if you _have to_ heat then do it, as I said when I was going through -20c degrees winter you can't really escape it. I'd argue most people can live perfectly fine without heating. (not living up north / at high altitude / in cold micro climate). People don't heat their flats/offices to 25c in Berlin or London to avoid frozen pipes. Unless you live in a 1800s house there is no way your pipe would freeze here
- war1025 6y ago
  I just looked up the yearly average high / lows for Berlin and London. I never realized they were both so temperate. They are both 10 degrees of latitude further North than me here in Iowa, yet they both look to rarely dip much below freezing. I knew London's temperature was buffered by being so close to the ocean, but I always thought Berlin was far enough inland to not have that benefit. And then on top of that they both have milder summers than here. That's all very interesting to me.
  - Green_man 6y ago
    I read somewhere that the *gulf stream (orig jet stream, thanks!) makes similar latitudes more temperate in Britain/Europe than Canada/America. whether it's attributable to the jet stream or other effects, it seems to be true for many locations. Much of the UK lines up with Hudson bay in Canada, or Scandinavia vs northern Canada/mid Alaska. It's telling that most European colonizers moved south as they crossed the Atlantic.
  - oblio 6y ago
    It's due to the Gulf Stream, not the jetstream :-) as the sibling comment says. Basically the Gulf Stream sucks all the heat from the West side of the Atlantic and brings it to Europe. Bucharest, Romania is at the same latitude as Montreal, Canada but I'm quite sure it doesn't get as much snow as Montreal :-)

lm28469 6y ago

Of course if you _have to_ heat then do it, as I said when I was going through -20c degrees winter you can't really escape it. I'd argue most people can live perfectly fine without heating. (not living up north / at high altitude / in cold micro climate). People don't heat their flats/offices to 25c in Berlin or London to avoid frozen pipes. Unless you live in a 1800s house there is no way your pipe would freeze here

war1025 6y ago
I just looked up the yearly average high / lows for Berlin and London. I never realized they were both so temperate. They are both 10 degrees of latitude further North than me here in Iowa, yet they both look to rarely dip much below freezing. I knew London's temperature was buffered by being so close to the ocean, but I always thought Berlin was far enough inland to not have that benefit. And then on top of that they both have milder summers than here. That's all very interesting to me.
- Green_man 6y ago
  I read somewhere that the *gulf stream (orig jet stream, thanks!) makes similar latitudes more temperate in Britain/Europe than Canada/America. whether it's attributable to the jet stream or other effects, it seems to be true for many locations. Much of the UK lines up with Hudson bay in Canada, or Scandinavia vs northern Canada/mid Alaska. It's telling that most European colonizers moved south as they crossed the Atlantic.
- oblio 6y ago
  It's due to the Gulf Stream, not the jetstream :-) as the sibling comment says. Basically the Gulf Stream sucks all the heat from the West side of the Atlantic and brings it to Europe. Bucharest, Romania is at the same latitude as Montreal, Canada but I'm quite sure it doesn't get as much snow as Montreal :-)