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> these are just the most perfectly healthy people who still died, despite medical care Of course, it could still happen but the chance are very low, flu still

by matz1 6y ago

> these are just the most perfectly healthy people who still died, despite medical care Of course, it could still happen but the chance are very low, flu still kills thousand of people every year, despite of vaccine. >Have you looked at any other countries handling of the pandemic? at least one country I know doesn't have mask mandate: sweeden. not a country but Florida doesn't have statewide mask mandate and they are handling it very well (in my opinion). Went there for a week this past few months, so much better than other state. I would consider moving there. >Again. Much more than 978 deaths. How much more ? Whats the evidence that those 978 is avoidable because of mask ? >How do you feel about businesses requiring masks for entry? I think its silly but their business their rule as long as I can choose other business that doesn't require mask or if I have business I can choose to not requiring mask.

Shared404 6y ago
> How much more ? This seems like a good method of determining this [0]. > Whats the evidence that those 978 is avoidable because of mask ? Physics, New Zealand, Japan, most other countries. > How much more ? This seems like a good method of determining this [0]. > as long as I can choose other business that doesn't require mask or if I have business I can choose to not requiring mask. So what if all businesses require masks? [0] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
- matz1 6y ago
  >Physics, How the physics work in this case? virus particle is much smaller than mask pores, especially with most mask that worn by general public https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 > New Zealand, Japan, most other countries. In those countries, What evidence that it is the mask that responsible for it ? Sweden, Florida, South Dakota doesn't have mask mandate and they are doing very well. >So what if all businesses require masks? very unlikely, even if that the case then if I own business I can have competitive advantage by attracting customer that don't like mask.
  - Shared404 6y ago
    > How the physics work in this case? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v2 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcnTNQG1_WkZ5h7go3B0Ntw/about https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcnTNQG1_WkZ5h7go3B0Ntw/abo... This about page looks... not so trustworthy. "SECOND OPiNION!!" -- Capitalization and punctuation taken from page. > Sweden, Florida, South Dakota https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoiding-strict-coronavirus-lockdowns-locks-down-amid-surge/ https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoid... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-mask-mandate/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-...
    - matz1 6y ago
      >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ 'Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.' Doesn't say anything about clothes mask that most people use. >https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v... Its say it may block some droplet, and even then require 2 or 3 layers of cloth. Does not saying anything about whether it can reduce virus transmission. >This about page looks... not so trustworthy. The page looks has nothing to do with the content/argument. >https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoiding-strict-coronavirus-lockdowns-locks-down-amid-surge/ https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoid... So ? They have no mask mandate and still no lockdown and live is pretty much still normal there. >https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ So ? They are doing very well. I went there for visit myself recently and considering moving there. >https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-mask-mandate/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-... So ? She is doing the right thing and the state are doing well too.

by matz1 6y ago

Shared404 6y ago

> How much more ? This seems like a good method of determining this [0]. > Whats the evidence that those 978 is avoidable because of mask ? Physics, New Zealand, Japan, most other countries. > How much more ? This seems like a good method of determining this [0]. > as long as I can choose other business that doesn't require mask or if I have business I can choose to not requiring mask. So what if all businesses require masks? [0] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

matz1 6y ago
>Physics, How the physics work in this case? virus particle is much smaller than mask pores, especially with most mask that worn by general public https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 > New Zealand, Japan, most other countries. In those countries, What evidence that it is the mask that responsible for it ? Sweden, Florida, South Dakota doesn't have mask mandate and they are doing very well. >So what if all businesses require masks? very unlikely, even if that the case then if I own business I can have competitive advantage by attracting customer that don't like mask.
- Shared404 6y ago
  > How the physics work in this case? https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v2 https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v... > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcnTNQG1_WkZ5h7go3B0Ntw/about https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcnTNQG1_WkZ5h7go3B0Ntw/abo... This about page looks... not so trustworthy. "SECOND OPiNION!!" -- Capitalization and punctuation taken from page. > Sweden, Florida, South Dakota https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoiding-strict-coronavirus-lockdowns-locks-down-amid-surge/ https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoid... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-mask-mandate/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-...
  - matz1 6y ago
    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32371934/ 'Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.' Doesn't say anything about clothes mask that most people use. >https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.20071779v... Its say it may block some droplet, and even then require 2 or 3 layers of cloth. Does not saying anything about whether it can reduce virus transmission. >This about page looks... not so trustworthy. The page looks has nothing to do with the content/argument. >https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoiding-strict-coronavirus-lockdowns-locks-down-amid-surge/ https://www.mediaite.com/news/sweden-once-heralded-for-avoid... So ? They have no mask mandate and still no lockdown and live is pretty much still normal there. >https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ So ? They are doing very well. I went there for visit myself recently and considering moving there. >https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-mask-mandate/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-dakota-covid-kristi-noem-... So ? She is doing the right thing and the state are doing well too.