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I just want to point out a few question-able statements about history made in the article: > Does it ever strike you as just a teeny bit odd that after a brief
by adamsea 6y ago
I just want to point out a few question-able statements about history made in the article:
> Does it ever strike you as just a teeny bit odd that after a brief period where philosophy flourished, from maybe 400 B.C.E. to ~100 C.E., we went through a follow-on period of well over one thousand five hundred years during which the Roman Catholic Church enslaved everyone's minds and killed anyone who dared think differently?
First, let's not forget that it was the Athenians (the Greeks) who put Socrates to death! So it's not like Ancient Greece was all about this philosophy stuff and we can just go blame the Christians ...
I don't know why we saw an 'end' to the golden age of ancient Greek philosophy. BUT .... the Greeks were conquered by the Romans. Christianity developed in the Holy Land and spread through Rome. Early Christianity was highly influenced by Platonism (Plato). So in some ways Christianity is an outgrowth of Greek Philosophy. Or at least not orthogonal to it. And if anything, maybe blame the Romans for the end of Greek philosophy? Though the
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_philosophy#Hellenistic_philosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_philosophy#Helle...
> It was philosophers that got us out of that Dark Ages mess, and no small number of them lost their lives in doing so.
The Dark Ages weren't really "dark"
"As the accomplishments of the era came to be better understood in the 19th and 20th centuries, scholars began restricting the "Dark Ages" appellation to the Early Middle Ages (c. 5th–10th century),[3][7][8] and now scholars also reject its usage in this period.[9] The majority of modern scholars avoid the term altogether due to its negative connotations, finding it misleading and inaccurate.[10][11][12] Petrarch's pejorative meaning remains in use,[1][2][13] typically in popular culture which often mischaracterises the Middle Ages as a time of violence and backwardness."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)
Since Steve's article uses this history as an analogy for the state of Computer Science / Programming, and then draws on it as an argument for why we need "philosophers" (IMHO philosophers of computer science might well do something completely unexpected and not what is suggested here), I think it's important to address the historical inaccuracies.
If anything I think more Science & Technology Studies folks / Philosophy of Computer Science, or anthropology folks studying the culture and implicit biases of computer scientists and software engineers would be useful & kinda awesome.