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Sorry if the post comes off as perfunctory, my last post on the topic had the opposite affect [1], so I tried to tone it down a little. Also, as the author, I

Sorry if the post comes off as perfunctory, my last post on the topic had the opposite affect [1], so I tried to tone it down a little. Also, as the author, I whole-heartedly recommend reading the aformentioned papers. [1] https://lobste.rs/s/mrlfwh/why_privacy_matters_even_if_you_have#c_dkiryo https://lobste.rs/s/mrlfwh/why_privacy_matters_even_if_you_h...

MaxBarraclough 6y ago
That page links to [0] which is a broken link, is it no longer available? [0] https://write.privacytools.io/privacy-simplified/why-privacy-matters-even-if-you-have-nothing-to-hide https://write.privacytools.io/privacy-simplified/why-privacy...
- freddyym 6y ago
  Ahh, yes that link is broken. Here is an archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20191224125253/https://write.privacytools.io/privacy-simplified/why-privacy-matters-even-if-you-have-nothing-to-hide https://web.archive.org/web/20191224125253/https://write.pri...
  - MaxBarraclough 6y ago
    There are some good points made there, but I found some of the points to be weak. Some hopefully constructive criticism: > Why would you not care about one of your human rights? That's essentially an appeal to authority or appeal to the majority argument. You haven't shown why I should care about privacy, you've only stated that the current consensus is that privacy counts as what we call a human right. > it's not that I have nothing to hide, I simply don't have anything I would like to share, especially unknowingly. Not really. I have plenty to hide, but that doesn't mean I've done anything wrong. I wouldn't agree to a camera in the bathroom, despite that I don't use the room to commit crimes. It's not that I merely don't care to have a camera, I would consider it a violation for there to be one.
    - freddyym 6y ago
      I agree with your first point, and hopefully you can see the changes in the current article. As for the second one, see a comment on the HN thread for the article [0]: > It is unlikely that you truly have nothing to hide, but it is even more unlikely that every single person who has any influence over your life has nothing to hide. Protecting their privacy prevents exploitation that could hurt you too. I probably should have used it in this article.... [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21923548 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21923548

MaxBarraclough 6y ago

That page links to [0] which is a broken link, is it no longer available? [0] https://write.privacytools.io/privacy-simplified/why-privacy-matters-even-if-you-have-nothing-to-hide https://write.privacytools.io/privacy-simplified/why-privacy...

freddyym 6y ago
Ahh, yes that link is broken. Here is an archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20191224125253/https://write.privacytools.io/privacy-simplified/why-privacy-matters-even-if-you-have-nothing-to-hide https://web.archive.org/web/20191224125253/https://write.pri...
- MaxBarraclough 6y ago
  There are some good points made there, but I found some of the points to be weak. Some hopefully constructive criticism: > Why would you not care about one of your human rights? That's essentially an appeal to authority or appeal to the majority argument. You haven't shown why I should care about privacy, you've only stated that the current consensus is that privacy counts as what we call a human right. > it's not that I have nothing to hide, I simply don't have anything I would like to share, especially unknowingly. Not really. I have plenty to hide, but that doesn't mean I've done anything wrong. I wouldn't agree to a camera in the bathroom, despite that I don't use the room to commit crimes. It's not that I merely don't care to have a camera, I would consider it a violation for there to be one.
  - freddyym 6y ago
    I agree with your first point, and hopefully you can see the changes in the current article. As for the second one, see a comment on the HN thread for the article [0]: > It is unlikely that you truly have nothing to hide, but it is even more unlikely that every single person who has any influence over your life has nothing to hide. Protecting their privacy prevents exploitation that could hurt you too. I probably should have used it in this article.... [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21923548 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21923548