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Conversely, we could try not fiddling with it: https://youtu.be/6txA3pI0xJI https://youtu.be/6txA3pI0xJI And playing minesweeper.

• oblio 6y ago
  Why? Because it will self-regulate? Because people will vote with their wallets? That's how we got leaded gasoline for 60+ years.
  • xkde 6y ago
    Leaded gasoline and the Internet are hardly comparable. But go ahead and make straw man arguments.
    • oblio 6y ago
      Corporate malfeasance with corporate malfeasance. How are they not comparable? The incentives are not aligned: corporate profit vs the commons.
      • xkde 6y ago
        Dumping chemicals in shared rivers/air vs placing ads in a privately owned space that users have the option of visiting. Not comparable. The fact that more people use Gmail than Protonmail / others is a testament to their willingness to trade their eyeballs on ads for a service they don't have to spend their monetary resources on. It's also worth asking - what makes you so confident about an absence of malfeasance from the largest, unbreakable corporate entity (ie. the government)?
        • Nextgrid 6y ago
          > users have the option of visiting Except that advertisers' activities goes beyond just showing ads. They stalk you, collect data and build a profile which will persist forever & be used down the line against you in one way or another (either intentionally by those advertisers or by someone else if the data falls into the wrong hands) long after you've left the website.
        • xkde 6y ago
          > They stalk you, collect data and build a profile Again, not generally a problem when using paid services.
        • oblio 6y ago
          > It's also worth asking - what makes you so confident about an absence of malfeasance from the largest, unbreakable corporate entity (ie. the government)? I'm not confident in that either. But in a democracy, the government is the people. It's voted by the people, replaced by the people. The government may be corrupted but at least its stated goal and the way it works is to serve the people. Corporation don't even have that as a goal. They only serve their shareholders. So on one hand we have one party which has a stated goal to serve the people and another one which has goals that can directly contravene this, and nobody will bat an eye. Which party is closer to what we want and need?
          • edmundsauto 6y ago
            Given the American federal response to Covid-19, compared to the efforts of corporate America... it's not so clear to me that being chosen by the people is the better option.
  • Zeing0Ch 6y ago
    People do vote with their wallets, there are many websites that let you pay to remove ads. How is that not self-regulating? > That's how we got leaded gasoline for 60+ years. But lead wasn't known to be bad, once it was, an entire industry scrambled (successfully) to innovate to provide alternatives. I think this makes the opposite of your point lol