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Relevant experience I've read from twitter months ago: https://mobile.twitter.com/watsonwaswrite/status/1230900126627106816 https://mobile.twitter.com/watsonwas

Relevant experience I've read from twitter months ago: https://mobile.twitter.com/watsonwaswrite/status/1230900126627106816 https://mobile.twitter.com/watsonwaswrite/status/12309001266...

jrochkind1 6y ago
> finally, my first day. and i was immediately disappointed to learn that the "team leads" in charge of grading our designs and reviewing our work.... were actually students two months ahead of us. two months!!!! Wow. While not an exact analogy, something about that makes me want to say MLM/"pyramid scheme" > i was so depressed. i started sleeping longer hours, i lost all enthusiasm. i was ashamed to tell my partner. i was genuinely struggling and still am. As I would be too in that position, I really sympathize. They are taking advantage of people and that has consequences, it isn't just a "failed startup".
- QuixoticChris 6y ago
  I've seen this pattern before with other bootcamps. If you want to advertise "99% employment after 3 month", the people who aren't succeeding have to go somewhere. Failing them out of the program is one way, but also hiring the borderline cases you couldn't fail out is another.
  - jrochkind1 6y ago
    It sounds like this in this case it's not recent grads, it's the people still paying the bootcamp, who are grading other's work. That is one way to reduce costs!
MivLives 6y ago
Even worse, since the curriculum changes so much there's a chance that the person grading you is three months ahead, and also hadn't actually originally gone through the unit they need to grade at all.
908B64B197 6y ago
I'm extremely skeptical of bootcamps, especially after learning that some of the TA's at Lambda are hired to help with teaching as little as two months into the program as students[0]. I guess that counts toward their "placement" stats! Not only that, but Lambda seems so desperate that they will offer a fresh grad at no cost to any company for a 4 week trial period. [1] [0] https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/lambda-schools-job-placement-rate-is-lower-than-claimed.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/lambda-schools-job-p... [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25138610 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25138610

Relevant experience I've read from twitter months ago: https://mobile.twitter.com/watsonwaswrite/status/1230900126627106816 https://mobile.twitter.com/watsonwaswrite/status/12309001266...

jrochkind1 6y ago

> finally, my first day. and i was immediately disappointed to learn that the "team leads" in charge of grading our designs and reviewing our work.... were actually students two months ahead of us. two months!!!! Wow. While not an exact analogy, something about that makes me want to say MLM/"pyramid scheme" > i was so depressed. i started sleeping longer hours, i lost all enthusiasm. i was ashamed to tell my partner. i was genuinely struggling and still am. As I would be too in that position, I really sympathize. They are taking advantage of people and that has consequences, it isn't just a "failed startup".

QuixoticChris 6y ago
I've seen this pattern before with other bootcamps. If you want to advertise "99% employment after 3 month", the people who aren't succeeding have to go somewhere. Failing them out of the program is one way, but also hiring the borderline cases you couldn't fail out is another.
- jrochkind1 6y ago
  It sounds like this in this case it's not recent grads, it's the people still paying the bootcamp, who are grading other's work. That is one way to reduce costs!

MivLives 6y ago

Even worse, since the curriculum changes so much there's a chance that the person grading you is three months ahead, and also hadn't actually originally gone through the unit they need to grade at all.

908B64B197 6y ago

I'm extremely skeptical of bootcamps, especially after learning that some of the TA's at Lambda are hired to help with teaching as little as two months into the program as students[0]. I guess that counts toward their "placement" stats! Not only that, but Lambda seems so desperate that they will offer a fresh grad at no cost to any company for a 4 week trial period. [1] [0] https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/lambda-schools-job-placement-rate-is-lower-than-claimed.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/02/lambda-schools-job-p... [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25138610 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25138610