> If running a red light or stop sign is a $200 ticket in a car, it should be a $200 ticket on a bike. Hard to justify when safety is the main argument. Yeah,

> If running a red light or stop sign is a $200 ticket in a car, it should be a $200 ticket on a bike. Hard to justify when safety is the main argument. Yeah, $200 fine for cyclists would be a good deterrent, but maybe then it should be a $1000 or $2000 fine for a car doing the same thing [0]. If you want to argue that cyclists should face the same penalties as drivers, you have to make an argument prioritizing safety, but something like "respect for the law". [0] Or - $200 plus points on your license. That's the way it works in many jurisdictions: the motorist rightly faces a bigger penalty even though the top-line dollar amount is the same.