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A car making a right turn is also going to be a lot more dangerous situation when there are bike lines than if the bicycles are sharing lanes with cars. I was c

by bnralt 6y ago

A car making a right turn is also going to be a lot more dangerous situation when there are bike lines than if the bicycles are sharing lanes with cars. I was curious about how it's handled in Copenhagen (since that is usually held up as a particularly bike friendly city), but it seems to be an issue there as well, according to this article[1]. What's interesting about this article is that it suggests that a large part of the bike safety efforts are directed at getting cyclists to adopt safe behaviors. It seems like most of the discussion in states is directed at everyone except the cyclists themselves. [1] http://www.cycling-embassy.dk/2015/10/23/how-to-decrease-right-turn-accidents/ http://www.cycling-embassy.dk/2015/10/23/how-to-decrease-rig...

Muximize 6y ago
It's one of the things Copenhagen can learn from the Netherlands, where it's a solved problem at most intersections: https://youtu.be/XpQMgbDJPok https://youtu.be/XpQMgbDJPok https://youtu.be/FlApbxLz6pA https://youtu.be/FlApbxLz6pA Also see https://youtu.be/HjzzV2Akyds https://youtu.be/HjzzV2Akyds from 6 minutes on for right turns in Copenhagen.
tokai 6y ago
>What's interesting about this article is that it suggests that a large part of the bike safety efforts are directed at getting cyclists to adopt safe behaviors. What? From the article > we can conclude, that very rarely it is the cyclists who make the mistakes. Therefore, we mostly collaborate with the truck drivers and the authorities in solving the problems. It's not a huge problem, its just one of the main recurring accident types. At most crossings the closed bike lane opens and becomes an combined right-turn lane and bike lane. It's routine to for +10 cyclist to merge with cars turning right. The fatalities from right turns are almost exclusively due to trucks and lorries that have hard time viewing cyclist in the mirror when they are close together. Remember the majority of the population here cycles. So it is more of a public campaign to be aware of one of the more dangerous situations and provide information on how to avoid it.

by bnralt 6y ago

Muximize 6y ago

It's one of the things Copenhagen can learn from the Netherlands, where it's a solved problem at most intersections: https://youtu.be/XpQMgbDJPok https://youtu.be/XpQMgbDJPok https://youtu.be/FlApbxLz6pA https://youtu.be/FlApbxLz6pA Also see https://youtu.be/HjzzV2Akyds https://youtu.be/HjzzV2Akyds from 6 minutes on for right turns in Copenhagen.

tokai 6y ago

>What's interesting about this article is that it suggests that a large part of the bike safety efforts are directed at getting cyclists to adopt safe behaviors. What? From the article > we can conclude, that very rarely it is the cyclists who make the mistakes. Therefore, we mostly collaborate with the truck drivers and the authorities in solving the problems. It's not a huge problem, its just one of the main recurring accident types. At most crossings the closed bike lane opens and becomes an combined right-turn lane and bike lane. It's routine to for +10 cyclist to merge with cars turning right. The fatalities from right turns are almost exclusively due to trucks and lorries that have hard time viewing cyclist in the mirror when they are close together. Remember the majority of the population here cycles. So it is more of a public campaign to be aware of one of the more dangerous situations and provide information on how to avoid it.