> I mean he wanted to nuke Iran but the establishment wouldn't let him. Is that what you consider weak? They're talking about perception of weakness, and frank

> I mean he wanted to nuke Iran but the establishment wouldn't let him. Is that what you consider weak? They're talking about perception of weakness, and frankly what you're describing there would be evidence of his being weak if "the establishment" blocked him. Not that I'm agreeing with what any of what either of you are saying here.