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Honestly I wouldn’t agree to have 100% of my effort dictated by others. I never had a visa situation but even as a fresh out of college worker, I demanded a por

Honestly I wouldn’t agree to have 100% of my effort dictated by others. I never had a visa situation but even as a fresh out of college worker, I demanded a portion of autonomy. I wouldn’t be fulfilling what I could do for my employer otherwise. I get odd looks for some of the things I get enthusiastic but some of them work out. And I learn a lot more about things and in particularly the growth of new things from being fully responsible for some things. If you are a smart person who can code, you absolutely have the labor market power to take partial control of your time and effort. I would say you have an obligation as a thinking worker to cultivate yourself in this way, for the benefit of yourself, your coworkers, and your employer.

mavelikara 6y ago
When you say "100% of my effort", do you include the time you spend outside of work hours, or do you include those your employer pays you for?
- intellix 6y ago
  I think I'm also in the same bucket as the original comment so can answer from my perspective. Coding is my hobby as well so spend pretty much most of my time awake working on something whether it's for the company, freelance or personal projects that interest me. It's quite common that I'll discover something or gain relevant experience that I can reapply to projects in and outside of my 9-6. There's a list of things we want in JIRA that I'll work through and if someone says that something is important then I'll absolutely work on it but quite often I'll get random ideas of features or improvements and just go straight ahead working on it because I know it'll improve what we have or is valuable to the product. The project manager kind of hates me and asks how I decide what to work on and what my schedule looks like but it's mostly spur of the moment problems I'm excited to solve. Sure I'm able to do what I want but I still stay on course somewhat and it's all valuable. I've had a case where I did this when getting paid hourly. They told me it's not what they're paying me for so it probably only applies when it's on a salary or rev share basis :D

mavelikara 6y ago

When you say "100% of my effort", do you include the time you spend outside of work hours, or do you include those your employer pays you for?

intellix 6y ago
I think I'm also in the same bucket as the original comment so can answer from my perspective. Coding is my hobby as well so spend pretty much most of my time awake working on something whether it's for the company, freelance or personal projects that interest me. It's quite common that I'll discover something or gain relevant experience that I can reapply to projects in and outside of my 9-6. There's a list of things we want in JIRA that I'll work through and if someone says that something is important then I'll absolutely work on it but quite often I'll get random ideas of features or improvements and just go straight ahead working on it because I know it'll improve what we have or is valuable to the product. The project manager kind of hates me and asks how I decide what to work on and what my schedule looks like but it's mostly spur of the moment problems I'm excited to solve. Sure I'm able to do what I want but I still stay on course somewhat and it's all valuable. I've had a case where I did this when getting paid hourly. They told me it's not what they're paying me for so it probably only applies when it's on a salary or rev share basis :D