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1) You can't see software, which combines with 2) a company with bad sales but great engineering is a dead company, which results in 3) decisions trickle down f

1) You can't see software, which combines with 2) a company with bad sales but great engineering is a dead company, which results in 3) decisions trickle down from sales but salesmen are blind to the software. Proposed Solution: Programmers should learn sales. (So it's diversity at the root of all problems !)

breck 6y ago
Proposed Solution: make it so that you CAN "see software". this is what I work on, but also things like Sublime's Minimap are huge trends in this direction.
- dustingetz 6y ago
  could work but we’ll need to condense 50k LOC crud spa into a flowchart without loss of essence. (that’s what i work on). what is your angle? i checked out treenotation.org , is there more? flowchart is graph
  - breck 6y ago
    It’s doesn’t work with current languages. The shape of the AST needs to be the same as the shape of the source. Once you’ve done that though the program and visualization are isomorphic. Check out the toHTMLcube demo in the Sandbox, the language designer demo, or: https://v20.ohayo.computer/?filename=ohayo.ohayo-source-code-vis.ohayo&nodeBreakSymbol=%7E&edgeSymbol=_&data=doc.title_Source_code_visualization_of_ohayo.ohayo%7Edata.inline%7E_parser_text%7E_treeLanguage_ohayo%7E_text.lineCount%7E__show.median_lines_Total_lines%7E_text.wordCount%7E__show.sum_count_Total_words%7E_treenotation.3d%7E_treenotation.outline%7E_treenotation.wordTypes%7E__html.printAs_pre%7E___text.wordCount%7E____tables.basic%7E____text.wordcloud%7E_content%7E__web.get_ohayo%252Fpackages%252Fsamples%252Fwelcome.md%7E___parser_text%7E___hidden%7E___markdown.toHtml%7E__templates.list%7E__challenge.list https://v20.ohayo.computer/?filename=ohayo.ohayo-source-code... That’s all older stuff, but hints at some of the ideas.
reidjs 6y ago
As a programmer currently learning sales by necessity, I agree wholeheartedly.

breck 6y ago

Proposed Solution: make it so that you CAN "see software". this is what I work on, but also things like Sublime's Minimap are huge trends in this direction.

dustingetz 6y ago
could work but we’ll need to condense 50k LOC crud spa into a flowchart without loss of essence. (that’s what i work on). what is your angle? i checked out treenotation.org , is there more? flowchart is graph
- breck 6y ago
  It’s doesn’t work with current languages. The shape of the AST needs to be the same as the shape of the source. Once you’ve done that though the program and visualization are isomorphic. Check out the toHTMLcube demo in the Sandbox, the language designer demo, or: https://v20.ohayo.computer/?filename=ohayo.ohayo-source-code-vis.ohayo&nodeBreakSymbol=%7E&edgeSymbol=_&data=doc.title_Source_code_visualization_of_ohayo.ohayo%7Edata.inline%7E_parser_text%7E_treeLanguage_ohayo%7E_text.lineCount%7E__show.median_lines_Total_lines%7E_text.wordCount%7E__show.sum_count_Total_words%7E_treenotation.3d%7E_treenotation.outline%7E_treenotation.wordTypes%7E__html.printAs_pre%7E___text.wordCount%7E____tables.basic%7E____text.wordcloud%7E_content%7E__web.get_ohayo%252Fpackages%252Fsamples%252Fwelcome.md%7E___parser_text%7E___hidden%7E___markdown.toHtml%7E__templates.list%7E__challenge.list https://v20.ohayo.computer/?filename=ohayo.ohayo-source-code... That’s all older stuff, but hints at some of the ideas.

reidjs 6y ago

As a programmer currently learning sales by necessity, I agree wholeheartedly.