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Sorry, this is exactly why HN sucks. Am I not even allowed to criticize you or ask questions?

JoeAltmaier 15y ago
Sure, asked and answered. But this question in particular is discouraged. Follow HN for any length of time and you see the answer. If you want a meta-thread about posting, create one. But this thread is (was) about security.
nollidge 15y ago
> Am I not even allowed to criticize you or ask questions? Sure you are. You're also welcome to leave if the community norms for voting are not in line with your own.
ascendant 15y ago
All communities have some degree of self policing. Those that allow any commentary to go by usually end up embroiled in vitriol and snark. HN strives to keep a specific level of intelligence (to varying degrees of success). As was stated elsewhere, and I mean no disrespect by this, if the community-enforced standards of comment quality do not appeal to you, you have the choices of (A) not commenting, (B) spending more time asking yourself if your comments will be deemed acceptable by the community or (C) leaving. I too like to fire off witty, snarky comments. But after a few of them got torn apart vote-wise, I now spend more time asking myself if I will be adding anything useful to the discussion. While I try to refuse the allure of groupthink just so I can get the rush of seeing my karma count move up, I do attempt to at least find a way to state my opinion in a way that is palatable and intelligent.
- raz0r 15y ago
  Yeah, sorry, I don't agree with that because I don't give a fuck about my rating, or karma or whatever the fuck you're calling it on HN, so I comment anyway. You should do that too instead of "spending more time asking yourself if you will be adding anything useful to the discussion". ;) My point was that Linus is an idiot and it can be as informative as any other comment for people who don't already know that. My two cents.

Sure, asked and answered. But this question in particular is discouraged. Follow HN for any length of time and you see the answer. If you want a meta-thread about posting, create one. But this thread is (was) about security.

nollidge 15y ago

> Am I not even allowed to criticize you or ask questions? Sure you are. You're also welcome to leave if the community norms for voting are not in line with your own.

ascendant 15y ago

All communities have some degree of self policing. Those that allow any commentary to go by usually end up embroiled in vitriol and snark. HN strives to keep a specific level of intelligence (to varying degrees of success). As was stated elsewhere, and I mean no disrespect by this, if the community-enforced standards of comment quality do not appeal to you, you have the choices of (A) not commenting, (B) spending more time asking yourself if your comments will be deemed acceptable by the community or (C) leaving. I too like to fire off witty, snarky comments. But after a few of them got torn apart vote-wise, I now spend more time asking myself if I will be adding anything useful to the discussion. While I try to refuse the allure of groupthink just so I can get the rush of seeing my karma count move up, I do attempt to at least find a way to state my opinion in a way that is palatable and intelligent.

raz0r 15y ago
Yeah, sorry, I don't agree with that because I don't give a fuck about my rating, or karma or whatever the fuck you're calling it on HN, so I comment anyway. You should do that too instead of "spending more time asking yourself if you will be adding anything useful to the discussion". ;) My point was that Linus is an idiot and it can be as informative as any other comment for people who don't already know that. My two cents.