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This is such an interesting topic to discuss. The book industry by itself is somewhat in a state of limbo. Goodreads is basically the only major social network
by newbie578 6y ago
This is such an interesting topic to discuss. The book industry by itself is somewhat in a state of limbo.
Goodreads is basically the only major social network for bookworms, yet the majority of its users hate it (including me), but are forced to use it to their chagrin.
You would think that would make the market ripe for a disruptor to arrive and topple the incumbent leader, yet each year nothing happens.
I personally have also thought of making a new rival product, but when you do the math on the market potential and the financial benefits, I just don't see a viable way.
People who read books, even if they read them every day, won't use your social network each day since books by themselves are the type of content which is consumed the longest (compared to a movie, tv show, song, or video game).
So you have a social network where users come back on a whim, even if you read like a maniac and try to read one book per week (I tried it one year, it was crazy, you are basically spending all your free time reading), even then users wouldn't use your app each day, but perhaps once or twice a week, and who knows how much time would the average session last?
To make things worse, you could maybe even get away with users using your app once a week if you have a big enough market (user base), but the number of book readers is not that great (especially compared to other media consumption)... The median American reads 4 books a year [1], or simply put, one book in three months.
So you have a social network where users don't need to use it often and there aren't a lot of users, that already spells trouble, but there is another major issue.
You could even succeed with those issues if you had a highly commoditized product to advertise, let's say a social network for yacht lovers, even if you have a small number of users and they do not use it much, you can still manage to succeed with it, since if you advertise yachts to potential yacht owners, you have a very valuable marketing channel which is worth quite an amount to the right people.
You can see where I am going with this, just compare a 5% commission on a yacht, vs a 5% commission on a book...
Unfortunately books are not so highly valued (in monetary terms) nor sought after.
To sum up, you have a social network where users don't spend a lot of time, you don't have a lot of users and it is centered around a low profit product...
Of course Goodreads has no competition, no sane person would touch that market with a ten foot pole.
Yet, to quote George Bernard Shaw, "all progress depends on the unreasonable man". If someone manages to solve this problem and find a profitable way to survive, I would not be surprised to see Goodreads fall.
I even thought of contacting Scribd to work with them, since I think they might have the best shot currently to position themselves as market leaders. They have an excellent product (Netflix for books) and already have a well sized user base. Would be interesting to see them expand and also became a social network for book lovers.
[1] - https://www.bustle.com/p/how-many-books-did-the-average-american-read-in-the-last-year-this-new-study-may-surprise-you-8837851 https://www.bustle.com/p/how-many-books-did-the-average-amer...
[2] - https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/536961-the-reasonable-man-adapts-himself-to-the-world-the-unreasonable https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/536961-the-reasonable-man-a...
- aww_dang 6y agoFirstly, I am interested to know your pain points in using GoodReads. What are the features you would add or change? For me it is simply user book reviews and summaries. My expectations are limited, so I don't see what you see. I believe that Amazon owns GoodReads. There's a natural conflict of interest, but at the end of the day sales are sales. Last I heard, commissions for Amazon affiliates were not only for the linked item. For example, if you link them to the book, but they go on to buy a toaster oven, you'll receive a commission for the entire purchase. If you think more user engagement is necessary, that's fine. Strategies could be developed to drive more engagement. If the problems you see in the site are shared by others, I think you could have something viable. Please don't let a can't-do attitude stop you from experimenting. Web development is an open landscape for adventurers.
- soft_dev_person 6y agoI've been thinking about this too. I think a subscription service could work, but have no idea how many would pay to escape Goodreads, or how much.
- newbie578 6y agoI thought of that also, but don't know really any social networks where users pay to be a member? And I don't see a growth potential if users have to pay, especially if you want users from Africa or India. That is why I think Scribd has a chance, users pay for book rentals, yet they are also part of the social network.
- prepend 6y agoI think the goal shouldn’t be a social network, but just shared libraries with markup. Like an infinite hallway with doors that each open to the library of every person. I use goodreads for tracking my library and browsing others libraries. I think a site trying to make me “interact daily” about books would suck. But I do want a way to use reading and collection information of others to help me pick my own books.
- BlueTemplar 6y ago