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It’s not a crime.

by andrewshadura 6y ago

It’s not a crime.

tomcam 6y ago
It is by definition a federal crime
- andrewshadura 6y ago
  You are mistaken.
  - tomcam 6y ago
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
- DanBC 6y ago
  What's the federal law being broken?
  - _iyig 6y ago
    The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 https://www.uscis.gov/laws-and-policy/legislation/immigration-and-nationality-act https://www.uscis.gov/laws-and-policy/legislation/immigratio... Specifically: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8%20section:1227%20edition:prelim)%20OR%20(granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1227)&f=treesort&num=0&edition=prelim https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8%20section:1... See language regarding “adjustment of status” and “present in violation of law.” As enforced via: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1226&num=0&edition=prelim https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim...
    - DanBC 6y ago
      Right, but which bit of those do you think makes this specifically a crime?
      - _iyig 6y ago
        Apologies for pedantry - here is the dictionary definition of "crime": https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crime https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crime >1: an illegal act for which someone can be punished by the government And from the Code of Laws of the United States of America, linked previously: >Any alien (including an alien crewman) in and admitted to the United States shall, upon the order of the Attorney General, be removed if the alien is within one or more of the following classes of deportable aliens: >(1) Inadmissible at time of entry or of adjustment of status or violates status [...] To reside in the U.S. illegally is prohibited by law, and the government shall punish you with removal to your country of origin. In other words, residing in the U.S. illegally is a crime. EDIT: Downvotes because I'm mistaken, or because you don't like the U.S. Code? If the above analysis is wrong, please correct it.
  - tomcam 6y ago
    Glad you asked. Applicable statute below. Did you know that illegal entry into virtually any one of the 193 countries in the world is considered a federal crime in those countries? I would be interested in learning where it is encouraged or legal. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

It’s not a crime.

tomcam 6y ago

It is by definition a federal crime

andrewshadura 6y ago
You are mistaken.
- tomcam 6y ago
  https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
DanBC 6y ago
What's the federal law being broken?
- _iyig 6y ago
  The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 https://www.uscis.gov/laws-and-policy/legislation/immigration-and-nationality-act https://www.uscis.gov/laws-and-policy/legislation/immigratio... Specifically: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8%20section:1227%20edition:prelim)%20OR%20(granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1227)&f=treesort&num=0&edition=prelim https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=(title:8%20section:1... See language regarding “adjustment of status” and “present in violation of law.” As enforced via: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1226&num=0&edition=prelim https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim...
  - DanBC 6y ago
    Right, but which bit of those do you think makes this specifically a crime?
    - _iyig 6y ago
      Apologies for pedantry - here is the dictionary definition of "crime": https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crime https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/crime >1: an illegal act for which someone can be punished by the government And from the Code of Laws of the United States of America, linked previously: >Any alien (including an alien crewman) in and admitted to the United States shall, upon the order of the Attorney General, be removed if the alien is within one or more of the following classes of deportable aliens: >(1) Inadmissible at time of entry or of adjustment of status or violates status [...] To reside in the U.S. illegally is prohibited by law, and the government shall punish you with removal to your country of origin. In other words, residing in the U.S. illegally is a crime. EDIT: Downvotes because I'm mistaken, or because you don't like the U.S. Code? If the above analysis is wrong, please correct it.
- tomcam 6y ago
  Glad you asked. Applicable statute below. Did you know that illegal entry into virtually any one of the 193 countries in the world is considered a federal crime in those countries? I would be interested in learning where it is encouraged or legal. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325