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I don't think I'm alone in not understanding what the fuck urbit even is supposed to be. I suspect Yarvin is lost so far up his own ass he's lost the ability t

I don't think I'm alone in not understanding what the fuck urbit even is supposed to be. I suspect Yarvin is lost so far up his own ass he's lost the ability to clearly communicate. Whatever urbit is meant to be, it's doubtlessly dead on arrival due to virtually nobody knowing what it's meant to be.

stale2002 6y ago
Yep! This strikes extremely true for me as well. I've been casually following urbit for 3 years now. And by "casually following" I mean "every now any then, they have some crypto meetup in San Francisco with free drinks, a tech talk, and stuff and sometimes I accidentally end up there". And of the half dozen or so meetups that I've stumbled upon, for the free drinks and to meet people for fun, what I know about Urbit is as follows: It is something related to crypto and also some new programming language, and also there are solar systems, and planets, and somehow that has something to do with people controlling their own code. And also, there is something about Monarchy, or kings? No idea what that monarchy thing is about. Pro tip for fellow people who are running community based projects or advertising your product through meetups: You should tailor your pitches and tech talks to be understandable by a software engineer who is a couple drinks in, and only half paying attention to the talk. Because guess what, that's what the majority of your audience is going to be!
- weare138 6y ago
  I don't think any amount of sobriety is going to help anyone better understand Urbit, in fact I think the opposite is true. You'd have to be shit-faced drunk for Urbit to seem like a good idea.
  - cocktailpeanuts 6y ago
    I don't think any amount of alcohol would help. You need acid. At this point it's almost like scientology. It uses "tech" as a front to attract gullible people to pay up.
hoka-one-one 6y ago
it's a secure identity system where instead of having to log into a bunch of different shit and put your data in a bunch of different places and keep it updated to do your day-to-day life stuff you can do everything using publish subscribe and hold all your data in one place. Suppose you use a lot of banks (and/or your friends' personal sites), imagine being able to update your address just once and automatically push that information to all banks you're subbed to and only the banks you're subbed to and have the push still go through "immediately" (on startup) if one bank is experiencing downtime. Could be interesting. This is part of the "personal server" idea...everyone should easily be able to create a personal server that's a pure function of its event history and that is logically consistent with the network (clients, other servers, routing tables, blah blah). You can make a personal server without having to worry about downtime because your server's event history will always be consistent with the network's. Then there's a mesh routing protocol built over current infrastructure so that any identity can figure out how to contact another and have the routing be correct. Limited address space, spammers can just be blocked. That's the best I can do off the top of my head. Criticize the execution all you want but I think the idea is really interesting. Edit: imagine dealing with the fookin IRS using all this cool stuff. I can only dream
pram 6y ago
The closest comparison I can think of is keybase. It's pretty similar when you cut out all the esoteric crap. Basically a chatroom, and other things, based on a distributed identity.

stale2002 6y ago

Yep! This strikes extremely true for me as well. I've been casually following urbit for 3 years now. And by "casually following" I mean "every now any then, they have some crypto meetup in San Francisco with free drinks, a tech talk, and stuff and sometimes I accidentally end up there". And of the half dozen or so meetups that I've stumbled upon, for the free drinks and to meet people for fun, what I know about Urbit is as follows: It is something related to crypto and also some new programming language, and also there are solar systems, and planets, and somehow that has something to do with people controlling their own code. And also, there is something about Monarchy, or kings? No idea what that monarchy thing is about. Pro tip for fellow people who are running community based projects or advertising your product through meetups: You should tailor your pitches and tech talks to be understandable by a software engineer who is a couple drinks in, and only half paying attention to the talk. Because guess what, that's what the majority of your audience is going to be!

weare138 6y ago
I don't think any amount of sobriety is going to help anyone better understand Urbit, in fact I think the opposite is true. You'd have to be shit-faced drunk for Urbit to seem like a good idea.
- cocktailpeanuts 6y ago
  I don't think any amount of alcohol would help. You need acid. At this point it's almost like scientology. It uses "tech" as a front to attract gullible people to pay up.

hoka-one-one 6y ago

it's a secure identity system where instead of having to log into a bunch of different shit and put your data in a bunch of different places and keep it updated to do your day-to-day life stuff you can do everything using publish subscribe and hold all your data in one place. Suppose you use a lot of banks (and/or your friends' personal sites), imagine being able to update your address just once and automatically push that information to all banks you're subbed to and only the banks you're subbed to and have the push still go through "immediately" (on startup) if one bank is experiencing downtime. Could be interesting. This is part of the "personal server" idea...everyone should easily be able to create a personal server that's a pure function of its event history and that is logically consistent with the network (clients, other servers, routing tables, blah blah). You can make a personal server without having to worry about downtime because your server's event history will always be consistent with the network's. Then there's a mesh routing protocol built over current infrastructure so that any identity can figure out how to contact another and have the routing be correct. Limited address space, spammers can just be blocked. That's the best I can do off the top of my head. Criticize the execution all you want but I think the idea is really interesting. Edit: imagine dealing with the fookin IRS using all this cool stuff. I can only dream

pram 6y ago

The closest comparison I can think of is keybase. It's pretty similar when you cut out all the esoteric crap. Basically a chatroom, and other things, based on a distributed identity.