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The picture of the main author should appear first, his picture should be larger, and this should read "Research scientist Hong-Jun Cho and his colleages". Same

The picture of the main author should appear first, his picture should be larger, and this should read "Research scientist Hong-Jun Cho and his colleages". Same as the paper.

pmoriarty 6y ago
"The way this is reported truly sucks. The picture of the main author should appear first, in my opinion. And this should read "Research scientist Hong-Jun Cho and his colleages"" Except in science the last author of the paper is the most significant one. So the way this article is written is just right.
- anoffvu 6y ago
  Actually, the opposite is true
  - esyir 6y ago
    This one is interesting, cause it really depends who you mean by "significant" The first author is generally the primary researcher. The last author is generally the PI of the entire lab, and the person of highest status in the lab.
    - ta988 6y ago
      And in some cases the last author doesn't even read or understand what is in the paper... (Seen that first hand)
- theresistor 6y ago
  Depends entirely on the field. Different fields have different conventions.
- zhdc1 6y ago
  It depends on the field (and journal, author preferences, and a bunch of other things...), but the main author is generally the person who did the bulk of the research and the last author is the usually the principle investigator, group lead, or gatekeeper (i.e., the person who frames the paper for a particular journal(s) to maximize publication success). As far as how all of this played out in this case, who knows, but I don't see anything particularly wrong with having either the first author or group lead as the main focus of the article, as long as both of them (and the other contributors) are openly acknowledged, which appears to have happened. If it matters, the group's Twitter account is worth a read https://twitter.com/miricagroup https://twitter.com/miricagroup.
- ekianjo 6y ago
  > Except in science the last author of the paper is the most significant one. In medicine usually. Not all disciplines follow this order.
2535throwaway 6y ago
> https://twitter.com/diana_yates_ https://twitter.com/diana_yates_ The author is Jewish. Are you accusing her of anti-Asian racism?
j7ake 6y ago
At a minimum they should have all authors in the paper in one picture together.
- ta988 6y ago
  How do you do that in the case where your paper is the result of a collaboration across the world?
  - therealx 6y ago
    Use $15 worth of hireable Photoshop to create a decent looking image with all of them? Even just squares of profile photos put together, but I almost guarantee a better job could be easily done.
  - j7ake 6y ago
    There are four authors in that paper. Just because there are papers that contain 100s of authors should not influence this specific case of a four author paper.
vikramkr 6y ago
If he's the first author, he's probably not the lab PI, and the PI usually gets the public credit, not the first author. Lab politics. Thats a complication with the research system as a whole, not with this particular news piece

The picture of the main author should appear first, his picture should be larger, and this should read "Research scientist Hong-Jun Cho and his colleages". Same as the paper.

pmoriarty 6y ago

"The way this is reported truly sucks. The picture of the main author should appear first, in my opinion. And this should read "Research scientist Hong-Jun Cho and his colleages"" Except in science the last author of the paper is the most significant one. So the way this article is written is just right.

anoffvu 6y ago
Actually, the opposite is true
- esyir 6y ago
  This one is interesting, cause it really depends who you mean by "significant" The first author is generally the primary researcher. The last author is generally the PI of the entire lab, and the person of highest status in the lab.
  - ta988 6y ago
    And in some cases the last author doesn't even read or understand what is in the paper... (Seen that first hand)
theresistor 6y ago
Depends entirely on the field. Different fields have different conventions.
zhdc1 6y ago
It depends on the field (and journal, author preferences, and a bunch of other things...), but the main author is generally the person who did the bulk of the research and the last author is the usually the principle investigator, group lead, or gatekeeper (i.e., the person who frames the paper for a particular journal(s) to maximize publication success). As far as how all of this played out in this case, who knows, but I don't see anything particularly wrong with having either the first author or group lead as the main focus of the article, as long as both of them (and the other contributors) are openly acknowledged, which appears to have happened. If it matters, the group's Twitter account is worth a read https://twitter.com/miricagroup https://twitter.com/miricagroup.
ekianjo 6y ago
> Except in science the last author of the paper is the most significant one. In medicine usually. Not all disciplines follow this order.

2535throwaway 6y ago

> https://twitter.com/diana_yates_ https://twitter.com/diana_yates_ The author is Jewish. Are you accusing her of anti-Asian racism?

j7ake 6y ago

At a minimum they should have all authors in the paper in one picture together.

ta988 6y ago
How do you do that in the case where your paper is the result of a collaboration across the world?
- therealx 6y ago
  Use $15 worth of hireable Photoshop to create a decent looking image with all of them? Even just squares of profile photos put together, but I almost guarantee a better job could be easily done.
- j7ake 6y ago
  There are four authors in that paper. Just because there are papers that contain 100s of authors should not influence this specific case of a four author paper.

vikramkr 6y ago

If he's the first author, he's probably not the lab PI, and the PI usually gets the public credit, not the first author. Lab politics. Thats a complication with the research system as a whole, not with this particular news piece