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The incentives aren’t there. It takes effort to get right and what do you get? Bots scraping your data? I wish it was different that seems to be the thought pr

The incentives aren’t there. It takes effort to get right and what do you get? Bots scraping your data? I wish it was different that seems to be the thought process.

wrnr 6y ago
As I've said elsewhere I fear that it's actually worse then a lack of economic incentives, even in a Communist utopia it won't work because knowledge can not be encoded through semantic predicates.
- bawolff 6y ago
  Umm why not? I mean, its clear that all knowledge probably can't (probably can't encode all knowledge in english either), but it seems intuitively obvious to me that there exists a useful subset of knowledge that can be, given sufficient effort. I think ability to encode useful knowledge in principle in semantic triples is about the only problem the semantic web doesn't have.
  - wrnr 6y ago
    I've ranted about this before[1] and you can read it when searching for my nickname. It is ultimately a philosophic question about the meaning of semantics (sorry), but suggest to a modern linguist that knowledge can be grounded with predicates logic and they'll tell you "Dude we haven't been trying to do this for more then a 100 years, ever since Wittgenstein had a nervous breakdown". It is a shame the semantic web doesn't pay attention to other fields that have studied this questions, or maybe some did and left :) [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24583798 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24583798
    - bawolff 6y ago
      "Semantics" is a very overloaded term, but i'm not sure the goal of the semantic web matches the goals of "semantics" in other fields that you are thinking of.
- Privacy846 6y ago
  > won't work because knowledge can not be encoded through semantic predicates. “Can not” means “has the possibility of not happening”. Did you mean: “cannot”?

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The incentives aren’t there. It takes effort to get right and what do you get? Bots scraping your data? I wish it was different that seems to be the thought pr

by pocketgrok 6y ago

The incentives aren’t there. It takes effort to get right and what do you get? Bots scraping your data? I wish it was different that seems to be the thought process.

wrnr 6y ago
As I've said elsewhere I fear that it's actually worse then a lack of economic incentives, even in a Communist utopia it won't work because knowledge can not be encoded through semantic predicates.
- bawolff 6y ago
  Umm why not? I mean, its clear that all knowledge probably can't (probably can't encode all knowledge in english either), but it seems intuitively obvious to me that there exists a useful subset of knowledge that can be, given sufficient effort. I think ability to encode useful knowledge in principle in semantic triples is about the only problem the semantic web doesn't have.
  - wrnr 6y ago
    I've ranted about this before[1] and you can read it when searching for my nickname. It is ultimately a philosophic question about the meaning of semantics (sorry), but suggest to a modern linguist that knowledge can be grounded with predicates logic and they'll tell you "Dude we haven't been trying to do this for more then a 100 years, ever since Wittgenstein had a nervous breakdown". It is a shame the semantic web doesn't pay attention to other fields that have studied this questions, or maybe some did and left :) [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24583798 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24583798
    - bawolff 6y ago
      "Semantics" is a very overloaded term, but i'm not sure the goal of the semantic web matches the goals of "semantics" in other fields that you are thinking of.
- Privacy846 6y ago
  > won't work because knowledge can not be encoded through semantic predicates. “Can not” means “has the possibility of not happening”. Did you mean: “cannot”?