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Naked Yoga videos don’t violate Community Guidelines says YouTube

79 points by iamacyborg 6y ago

gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
naked yoga is fine, hunter biden or anti-dogma coronavirus discussion on the other hand...
- chillwaves 6y ago
  That's correct, deliberate misinformation and debunked conspiracy theories are more harmful to society than the nude form.
  - gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
    > harmful to society it's weird how this ends up being any expression that diverges from some dogmatic sense of moral righteousness if they could, they'd happily banish thoughts from peoples' minds also...where's the ban on all forms of liberal speculation? what miserable person bans rumors? I get the sense this must have been like the USSR where an abusive state takes the role of insufferable chastising school teacher.
    - chillwaves 6y ago
      I simply do not care. We have career health officials getting credible death threats due to wild conspiracies about Coronavirus or even 5G. I just don't care. Society needs to move forward. We do not need to accommodate the cranks. They can talk to each other, no one is stopping them. And what a hyperbolic reply from you. USSR? Get a grip. No one is throwing anyone in the gulag, they are just saying, "Hey, this is my platform that I own, play nice or get the fuck off." Do you understand the difference? Please don't minimize what actual authoritarian censorship looks like. > also...where's the ban on all forms of liberal speculation? Why don't you show me the dangerous conspiracies coming out of liberals? Currently the president of the united states is claiming widespread systematic election fraud (without evidence) and undermining not only our system of government, but the peaceful transition of power that is the hallmark of democracy. In response, many of his supporters are calling for civil war or other violent unrest. Show me the liberal equivalent. The only thing you have is false equivalencies, and you know what? Most of us are sick of it. Your partisan deflection aside, we don't care to accommodate violent cranks any longer.
      - disown 6y ago
        > Society needs to move forward. Yes it does. We need to fight against the anti-democratic and anti-free speech people rotting this country from the inside. > We have career health officials getting credible death threats due to wild conspiracies about Coronavirus or even 5G Oh god this nonsense. Morons of all stripes threaten public officials from watching CNN to youtube. If death threats are the grounds for censorship, then are you okay shutting down your favorite propaganda outlets? > They can talk to each other, no one is stopping them. Apparently youtube is. But you support that. But I'm betting you are the type of controlling people that wants to stop people communicating altogether about things you don't like. > And what a hyperbolic reply from you. USSR? Hyperbolic indeed. > Your partisan deflection aside Lots of partisan deflection on both sides. > we don't care to accommodate violent cranks any longer. Who's the "we" in that statement? It's the same silly talking points over and over again. By both sides.
        chillwaves 6y ago
        > Apparently youtube is Youtube stops them from talking to each other?? You aren't worth my reply.
        disown 6y ago
        > Youtube stops them from talking to each other?? Yes. Youtube is used by people to communicate with each other. > You aren't worth my reply. You obviously aren't worth much either.
        chillwaves 6y ago
        How does Youtube stop anyone from talking to anyone? Are you dense? They can still talk to each other. Youtube isn't the only way to communicate. Look at us now, communicating outside youtube.
  - the_only_law 6y ago
    There's even worse objectively bad content that gets on YouTube without consequence i.e. a video was on here recently discussing a phenomenon (or farm) that exploited animal abuse for view / monetization.
    - chillwaves 6y ago
      You have not provided enough information for me to reply to you.
  - specialist 6y ago
    The movie ET was made adult-only in Sweden, due to depictions of violence. Some societies are simply more civilized.
kvetching 6y ago
We all know, YouTube is a terrible company
clay_the_ripper 6y ago
Well it’s definitely nsfw but a quick search confirms this is true. Wow. One of the videos is from playboy tv. Pretty hilarious loophole.
egsmi 6y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it
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sp332 6y ago
It's awkward that the author feels they can't morally post an example, because it's impossible to judge the claims when only the least-strong evidence is presented.
- davej 6y ago
  For anybody that is curious [very NSFW] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=naked+yoga https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=naked+yoga
  - iaHN 6y ago
    Is there a way to view videos deemed nsfw without signing into a google/youtube account?
    - danillonunes 6y ago
      There's a site that you can use by adding nsfw in the front of the YouTube domain (so you get nsfwyoutube.com), but last time I tried it didn't worked. Not sure if it was a temporary issue or if YT is blocking them.
      - chillwaves 6y ago
        Youtube has stepped up their game wrt to age restricted videos. You are now forced to watch them on youtube. Previously could get around it using the /embed/ url or third party sites like youtuberepeater. Seems like these methods have been closed. > It's using technology to identify age-restrictive content so that when viewers discover age-restricted videos embedded on most third-party websites, they will now be required to log in to watch those videos in order to verify their age. https://www.axios.com/youtube-age-restrictions-children-91db71e5-390d-4f07-9ebf-3e74efe19a3a.html https://www.axios.com/youtube-age-restrictions-children-91db...
    - tyu2 6y ago
      youtube-dl works
sneak 6y ago
The issue is not what is being censored; the issue is that we have censors at all.
- chillwaves 6y ago
  Find me one social media platform that has zero moderation and I will show you a failed business model.
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  - sneak 6y ago
    Moderation and censorship are not the same thing. Look at email, for example: heavily moderated, yet mostly uncensored (and entirely uncensored if you wish it to be).
    - chillwaves 6y ago
      The difference is email is not centrally controlled. There is no way to "censor" it the way you would a platform you control. The function of email is to deliver messages and there isn't a good way to prevent abuse, hence spam filters, which in some cases acts identically to censorship.
vfclists 6y ago
Naked yoga doesn't violate community guidelines. Really? Are bare pubes necessary to illustrate the movements and poses being taught?
- polotics 6y ago
  I'm dumbfounded by the downvotes your perfectly legitimate question is getting. I think these enterprising ladies just found a way to beat YouTube's AI identifiers of NSFW content, and deserve to rake in the add revenue while it lasts.
  - vfclists 6y ago
    Thats the issue with the voting systems on reddit and HN. People get to downvote anonymously and don't even have to provide reasons.
  - rawrenstein 6y ago
    Channels can't monetize "Adult Content" according to "Advertiser-friendly content guidelines" from YouTube [1]. Each video I encountered was clearly marked by AI for such content. It requires human intervention to successfully verify a claim that the content is educational. I doubt most of these spam YouTube accounts are doing this. (I'm claiming spam because separate accounts are copying and pasting the same video descriptions.) It's sad to see really. Naked yoga is really great outside of this exploitation. Videos with no verbal instructions and non-instructional shots of genitalia kill the spirit of the practice. Such a shame. [1] https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6162278?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6162278?hl=en
- oh_sigh 6y ago
  Is visible head hair necessary to illustrate the poses being taught?
- mirekrusin 6y ago
  I don't think so, a lot of them seem to be shaved.
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pjc50 6y ago
Bizarre, but not surprising that the process has false negatives as well as false positives. And there's always going to be people who push the boundaries and hunt for loopholes. It's in the nature of rating/censorship regimes. There's a story that one of the early London strip clubs run by Paul Raymond was told that static nude "modelling" was OK, but "dancing" wasn't. So he had the models on small trolleys wheeled about the stage.
- tyu2 6y ago
  > And there's always going to be people who push the boundaries and hunt for loopholes. It's in the nature of rating/censorship regimes. That's not true. This is something censors say, because they don't want objectively specific criteria for censoring things, they want the power to arbitrarily apply censorship to anything they feel like and that is in the nature of censorship, all that "power always pursues more power" thing we know from political science. Which also implies if you make the criteria very specific, the power to censor things will be very limited and nothing to test the boundaries of or to hunt for loopholes.
  - sdenton4 6y ago
    Those are all unsupported statements... Step back and it's just a classification system, which we've got LOTS of stats and math and experience to approach it with. Any classification system has false positives and false negatives. That's just the starting point: whatever system is built will need some process for handling (or not) the bad classifications. Furthermore, in this specific area, the 'true' boundary depends on the cultural position of the specific viewer. What you call porn, I might call an instructional breast feeding video (to cite a specific example that caused a lot of headaches for facebook, some years ago). So there is no single 'correct' classification, meaning that the boundary must be porous. Wherever you set the boundary is going to piss off some people; eventually you're left just trying to find something that works OK for most of your stakeholders. It is, by necessity, a compromise. Finally, abuse is basically unavoidable on large-enough platforms. People ABSOLUTELY search for the loopholes and push the boundaries, constantly, anywhere they can. So not only do you have a hard classification problem with a subjective boundary, you have a hard /adversarial/ classification problem. (Engineers build bridges to withstand occasional earthquakes. Software engineers have to build bridges to withstand constant terrorist attacks.) So, it's a fundamentally hard problem, with no single optimal solution. It's easy to get in a huff, and much harder to do the actual work. This, to me, looks like an educational carveout getting abused, and nothing more. The loophole will likely get closed as it gets attention, which is kinda just how these things work. Abusers find new ways to get around the existing systems (because it is fundamentally impossible to predict every edge case), and the people building+running the systems eventually notice and react. But let's step back and consider your alternative explanation... Somehow allowing nude yoga videos is a power trip on the part of the moderators, which will help them obtain one more step on the stairway to world domination? Come on.
mrkramer 6y ago
I thought all nudity is banned no matter what context but I suppose they don't recommend naked yoga videos since some people could get disturbed getting nudity recommended. Btw does YouTube have recommendation filters where you can filter out certain content type or some kind of preferences option?
- teilo 6y ago
  There's a huge amount of nudity on YouTube. Even explicitly sexual in nature. The "art" out is usually how these things slip by. Music videos, for instance, get a pass.
baby 6y ago
It's really hard to have an opinion without actually looking at such videos, can someone provide link so that I can provide a better opinion?
- andreygrehov 6y ago
  Just search for `naked yoga` on YouTube.
  - tartoran 6y ago
    I had no idea, just searched and there are thousands of them, very very explcitit, genitalia closeups, etc
    - baby 6y ago
      Indeed, I am very surprised, I also didn’t find the content erotic or pornographic FWIW. I guess this is another news on how American can’t stand their own naked body.
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_def 6y ago
I didn't know this website (sausage roll) before but it seems like very terrible and sensational to me.
williesleg 6y ago
Beheadings are ok as long as they're against westerners.
kelsolaar 6y ago
A significant amount of video thumbnails upon following https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=naked+yoga https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=naked+yoga seem to be surfing close-by to the violation of Youtube's Nudity and sexual content policies. > Depiction of genitals, breasts, or buttocks (clothed or unclothed) for the purpose of sexual gratification https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802002?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802002?hl=en
the_dark_won 6y ago
If YouTube is a public resource, why wouldn't the laws governing public nudity apply? I can see image stills of naked women without requiring an age consent restriction. Look, one video even entices women to shave their vaginas. And is it "Education" if she holds up a dildo since the search term is showing sexual bias towards women?
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > If YouTube is a public resource, why wouldn't the laws governing public nudity apply? Because those laws by their own terms usually apply to people being nude in public places, not to images (whether in public or on publicly accessible websites), which are governed by different laws.
  - the_dark_won 6y ago
    This is digital public nudity. There is no rationalization you can use for indecent exposure. Wait until these links go on BiTly and get posted all around the internet anonymously! I mean heck, why can't we just live in a society where everyone walks around naked? Clothes are unreasonably expensive these days! "Big Clothing" is such an abomination dating back to the times of Adam and Eve!
    - dragonwriter 6y ago
      > This is digital public nudity. “Digital public nudity” isn't an actual legal thing. > There is no rationalization you can use for indecent exposure. Point to an indecent exposure law which covers this. > Wait until these links go on BiTly and get posted all around the internet anonymously! And...what catastrophe am I supposed to be anticipating? > I mean heck, why can't we just live in a society where everyone walks around naked? We can, if we choose (see, “naturism”), but I don't see what that has to do with pictures (moving or not) on the internet.
      - the_dark_won 6y ago
        > “Digital public nudity” isn't an actual legal thing. Yet > And...what catastrophe am I supposed to be anticipating? The digital form of public flashing > We can, if we choose (see, “naturism”), but I don't see what that has to do with pictures (moving or not) on the internet. I was being facetious. But seriously, can you set the example starting tomorrow since you clearly don't have an issue with this?
ykevinator 6y ago
god doesn't exist and why isn't there a link to the yoga video
bobbydreamer 6y ago
Now YouTube needs incognito mode

79 points by iamacyborg 6y ago

gnusty_gnurc 6y ago

naked yoga is fine, hunter biden or anti-dogma coronavirus discussion on the other hand...

chillwaves 6y ago
That's correct, deliberate misinformation and debunked conspiracy theories are more harmful to society than the nude form.
- gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
  > harmful to society it's weird how this ends up being any expression that diverges from some dogmatic sense of moral righteousness if they could, they'd happily banish thoughts from peoples' minds also...where's the ban on all forms of liberal speculation? what miserable person bans rumors? I get the sense this must have been like the USSR where an abusive state takes the role of insufferable chastising school teacher.
  - chillwaves 6y ago
    I simply do not care. We have career health officials getting credible death threats due to wild conspiracies about Coronavirus or even 5G. I just don't care. Society needs to move forward. We do not need to accommodate the cranks. They can talk to each other, no one is stopping them. And what a hyperbolic reply from you. USSR? Get a grip. No one is throwing anyone in the gulag, they are just saying, "Hey, this is my platform that I own, play nice or get the fuck off." Do you understand the difference? Please don't minimize what actual authoritarian censorship looks like. > also...where's the ban on all forms of liberal speculation? Why don't you show me the dangerous conspiracies coming out of liberals? Currently the president of the united states is claiming widespread systematic election fraud (without evidence) and undermining not only our system of government, but the peaceful transition of power that is the hallmark of democracy. In response, many of his supporters are calling for civil war or other violent unrest. Show me the liberal equivalent. The only thing you have is false equivalencies, and you know what? Most of us are sick of it. Your partisan deflection aside, we don't care to accommodate violent cranks any longer.
    - disown 6y ago
      > Society needs to move forward. Yes it does. We need to fight against the anti-democratic and anti-free speech people rotting this country from the inside. > We have career health officials getting credible death threats due to wild conspiracies about Coronavirus or even 5G Oh god this nonsense. Morons of all stripes threaten public officials from watching CNN to youtube. If death threats are the grounds for censorship, then are you okay shutting down your favorite propaganda outlets? > They can talk to each other, no one is stopping them. Apparently youtube is. But you support that. But I'm betting you are the type of controlling people that wants to stop people communicating altogether about things you don't like. > And what a hyperbolic reply from you. USSR? Hyperbolic indeed. > Your partisan deflection aside Lots of partisan deflection on both sides. > we don't care to accommodate violent cranks any longer. Who's the "we" in that statement? It's the same silly talking points over and over again. By both sides.
      - chillwaves 6y ago
        > Apparently youtube is Youtube stops them from talking to each other?? You aren't worth my reply.
        disown 6y ago
        > Youtube stops them from talking to each other?? Yes. Youtube is used by people to communicate with each other. > You aren't worth my reply. You obviously aren't worth much either.
        chillwaves 6y ago
        How does Youtube stop anyone from talking to anyone? Are you dense? They can still talk to each other. Youtube isn't the only way to communicate. Look at us now, communicating outside youtube.
- the_only_law 6y ago
  There's even worse objectively bad content that gets on YouTube without consequence i.e. a video was on here recently discussing a phenomenon (or farm) that exploited animal abuse for view / monetization.
  - chillwaves 6y ago
    You have not provided enough information for me to reply to you.
- specialist 6y ago
  The movie ET was made adult-only in Sweden, due to depictions of violence. Some societies are simply more civilized.

kvetching 6y ago

We all know, YouTube is a terrible company

clay_the_ripper 6y ago

Well it’s definitely nsfw but a quick search confirms this is true. Wow. One of the videos is from playboy tv. Pretty hilarious loophole.

egsmi 6y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it

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sp332 6y ago

It's awkward that the author feels they can't morally post an example, because it's impossible to judge the claims when only the least-strong evidence is presented.

davej 6y ago
For anybody that is curious [very NSFW] https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=naked+yoga https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=naked+yoga
- iaHN 6y ago
  Is there a way to view videos deemed nsfw without signing into a google/youtube account?
  - danillonunes 6y ago
    There's a site that you can use by adding nsfw in the front of the YouTube domain (so you get nsfwyoutube.com), but last time I tried it didn't worked. Not sure if it was a temporary issue or if YT is blocking them.
    - chillwaves 6y ago
      Youtube has stepped up their game wrt to age restricted videos. You are now forced to watch them on youtube. Previously could get around it using the /embed/ url or third party sites like youtuberepeater. Seems like these methods have been closed. > It's using technology to identify age-restrictive content so that when viewers discover age-restricted videos embedded on most third-party websites, they will now be required to log in to watch those videos in order to verify their age. https://www.axios.com/youtube-age-restrictions-children-91db71e5-390d-4f07-9ebf-3e74efe19a3a.html https://www.axios.com/youtube-age-restrictions-children-91db...
  - tyu2 6y ago
    youtube-dl works

sneak 6y ago

The issue is not what is being censored; the issue is that we have censors at all.

chillwaves 6y ago
Find me one social media platform that has zero moderation and I will show you a failed business model.
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- sneak 6y ago
  Moderation and censorship are not the same thing. Look at email, for example: heavily moderated, yet mostly uncensored (and entirely uncensored if you wish it to be).
  - chillwaves 6y ago
    The difference is email is not centrally controlled. There is no way to "censor" it the way you would a platform you control. The function of email is to deliver messages and there isn't a good way to prevent abuse, hence spam filters, which in some cases acts identically to censorship.

vfclists 6y ago

Naked yoga doesn't violate community guidelines. Really? Are bare pubes necessary to illustrate the movements and poses being taught?

polotics 6y ago
I'm dumbfounded by the downvotes your perfectly legitimate question is getting. I think these enterprising ladies just found a way to beat YouTube's AI identifiers of NSFW content, and deserve to rake in the add revenue while it lasts.
- vfclists 6y ago
  Thats the issue with the voting systems on reddit and HN. People get to downvote anonymously and don't even have to provide reasons.
- rawrenstein 6y ago
  Channels can't monetize "Adult Content" according to "Advertiser-friendly content guidelines" from YouTube [1]. Each video I encountered was clearly marked by AI for such content. It requires human intervention to successfully verify a claim that the content is educational. I doubt most of these spam YouTube accounts are doing this. (I'm claiming spam because separate accounts are copying and pasting the same video descriptions.) It's sad to see really. Naked yoga is really great outside of this exploitation. Videos with no verbal instructions and non-instructional shots of genitalia kill the spirit of the practice. Such a shame. [1] https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6162278?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6162278?hl=en
oh_sigh 6y ago
Is visible head hair necessary to illustrate the poses being taught?
mirekrusin 6y ago
I don't think so, a lot of them seem to be shaved.
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pjc50 6y ago

Bizarre, but not surprising that the process has false negatives as well as false positives. And there's always going to be people who push the boundaries and hunt for loopholes. It's in the nature of rating/censorship regimes. There's a story that one of the early London strip clubs run by Paul Raymond was told that static nude "modelling" was OK, but "dancing" wasn't. So he had the models on small trolleys wheeled about the stage.

tyu2 6y ago
> And there's always going to be people who push the boundaries and hunt for loopholes. It's in the nature of rating/censorship regimes. That's not true. This is something censors say, because they don't want objectively specific criteria for censoring things, they want the power to arbitrarily apply censorship to anything they feel like and that is in the nature of censorship, all that "power always pursues more power" thing we know from political science. Which also implies if you make the criteria very specific, the power to censor things will be very limited and nothing to test the boundaries of or to hunt for loopholes.
- sdenton4 6y ago
  Those are all unsupported statements... Step back and it's just a classification system, which we've got LOTS of stats and math and experience to approach it with. Any classification system has false positives and false negatives. That's just the starting point: whatever system is built will need some process for handling (or not) the bad classifications. Furthermore, in this specific area, the 'true' boundary depends on the cultural position of the specific viewer. What you call porn, I might call an instructional breast feeding video (to cite a specific example that caused a lot of headaches for facebook, some years ago). So there is no single 'correct' classification, meaning that the boundary must be porous. Wherever you set the boundary is going to piss off some people; eventually you're left just trying to find something that works OK for most of your stakeholders. It is, by necessity, a compromise. Finally, abuse is basically unavoidable on large-enough platforms. People ABSOLUTELY search for the loopholes and push the boundaries, constantly, anywhere they can. So not only do you have a hard classification problem with a subjective boundary, you have a hard /adversarial/ classification problem. (Engineers build bridges to withstand occasional earthquakes. Software engineers have to build bridges to withstand constant terrorist attacks.) So, it's a fundamentally hard problem, with no single optimal solution. It's easy to get in a huff, and much harder to do the actual work. This, to me, looks like an educational carveout getting abused, and nothing more. The loophole will likely get closed as it gets attention, which is kinda just how these things work. Abusers find new ways to get around the existing systems (because it is fundamentally impossible to predict every edge case), and the people building+running the systems eventually notice and react. But let's step back and consider your alternative explanation... Somehow allowing nude yoga videos is a power trip on the part of the moderators, which will help them obtain one more step on the stairway to world domination? Come on.

mrkramer 6y ago

I thought all nudity is banned no matter what context but I suppose they don't recommend naked yoga videos since some people could get disturbed getting nudity recommended. Btw does YouTube have recommendation filters where you can filter out certain content type or some kind of preferences option?

teilo 6y ago
There's a huge amount of nudity on YouTube. Even explicitly sexual in nature. The "art" out is usually how these things slip by. Music videos, for instance, get a pass.

baby 6y ago

It's really hard to have an opinion without actually looking at such videos, can someone provide link so that I can provide a better opinion?

andreygrehov 6y ago
Just search for `naked yoga` on YouTube.
- tartoran 6y ago
  I had no idea, just searched and there are thousands of them, very very explcitit, genitalia closeups, etc
  - baby 6y ago
    Indeed, I am very surprised, I also didn’t find the content erotic or pornographic FWIW. I guess this is another news on how American can’t stand their own naked body.
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_def 6y ago

I didn't know this website (sausage roll) before but it seems like very terrible and sensational to me.

williesleg 6y ago

Beheadings are ok as long as they're against westerners.

kelsolaar 6y ago

A significant amount of video thumbnails upon following https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=naked+yoga https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=naked+yoga seem to be surfing close-by to the violation of Youtube's Nudity and sexual content policies. > Depiction of genitals, breasts, or buttocks (clothed or unclothed) for the purpose of sexual gratification https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802002?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802002?hl=en

the_dark_won 6y ago

If YouTube is a public resource, why wouldn't the laws governing public nudity apply? I can see image stills of naked women without requiring an age consent restriction. Look, one video even entices women to shave their vaginas. And is it "Education" if she holds up a dildo since the search term is showing sexual bias towards women?

dragonwriter 6y ago
> If YouTube is a public resource, why wouldn't the laws governing public nudity apply? Because those laws by their own terms usually apply to people being nude in public places, not to images (whether in public or on publicly accessible websites), which are governed by different laws.
- the_dark_won 6y ago
  This is digital public nudity. There is no rationalization you can use for indecent exposure. Wait until these links go on BiTly and get posted all around the internet anonymously! I mean heck, why can't we just live in a society where everyone walks around naked? Clothes are unreasonably expensive these days! "Big Clothing" is such an abomination dating back to the times of Adam and Eve!
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > This is digital public nudity. “Digital public nudity” isn't an actual legal thing. > There is no rationalization you can use for indecent exposure. Point to an indecent exposure law which covers this. > Wait until these links go on BiTly and get posted all around the internet anonymously! And...what catastrophe am I supposed to be anticipating? > I mean heck, why can't we just live in a society where everyone walks around naked? We can, if we choose (see, “naturism”), but I don't see what that has to do with pictures (moving or not) on the internet.
    - the_dark_won 6y ago
      > “Digital public nudity” isn't an actual legal thing. Yet > And...what catastrophe am I supposed to be anticipating? The digital form of public flashing > We can, if we choose (see, “naturism”), but I don't see what that has to do with pictures (moving or not) on the internet. I was being facetious. But seriously, can you set the example starting tomorrow since you clearly don't have an issue with this?

ykevinator 6y ago

god doesn't exist and why isn't there a link to the yoga video

bobbydreamer 6y ago

Now YouTube needs incognito mode