> In my opinion if one needs the full capabilities of a modern IDE right in their editor one should go with a modern IDE. > Trying to turn vim into a modern ID

> In my opinion if one needs the full capabilities of a modern IDE right in their editor one should go with a modern IDE. > Trying to turn vim into a modern IDE with a zillion of plugins and glue scripts is a leisure activity and a time sink. Haha. That's true :) It's possible there's this conscious/unconscious bias against IDEs and "all the cool kids use vim/emacs". So people use those editors, but consciously/unconsciously crave the quality-of-life improvements that many IDEs (or just many other editors) provide. Even the simplest ones like file lists. Or symbol look ups. And then, yeah, it's down the rabbit hole of chasing the plugins, and configurations, and scripts. I experienced all this myself with emacs (I never grokked vim beyond some basic commands).