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For myself, IPv6 address are just to annoying to deal with as a human. It's as much of a mental shift as replacing street addresses with Latitude/Longitude coo

For myself, IPv6 address are just to annoying to deal with as a human. It's as much of a mental shift as replacing street addresses with Latitude/Longitude coordinates. So I've avoided IPv6 as much as possible.

StartupTree 6y ago
I feel the same. Nice analogy, going to use it.
ancarda 6y ago
To extend this analogy a bit... wouldn't 'street addresses' be DNS and lat/long coordinates be IP addresses? Can you elaborate a bit? Where do you find frustration with IPv6? I've been using IPv6 for probably close to 10 years now, and I can't say it's been frustrating
- _rs 6y ago
  As someone who thinks they are pretty savvy with "network stuff", I find the whole thing daunting. But my ISP also doesn't support IPv6 yet either, so I have no easy way (or need) to experiment with it yet.
  - ancarda 6y ago
    Years ago I used to have an IPv6 tunnel provided by SixXS. That let me get my feet wet by moving to v6 capable hosting and being able to send traffic to my website over the SixXS tunnel. At this point, though, you may be able to find an IPv6 capable ISP and just switch to them. Your phone might also have IPv6 too, especially if it's 4G/LTE. Any amount of exposure is better than none. If you're using AWS, I can help you setup IPv6 in your VPC and use it with EC2 which can let you get some first hand experience. My email is in my profile if you want to take me up on that offer.
dstick 6y ago
Isn’t that what DNS is for? I get that 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 is easier to remember than an IPv6 address. But once you use 82.54.132.87 addresses - is it really that different from either saving an IPv6 in your ssh config file, or resolving it with a domain name?
austincheney 6y ago
That's a good analogy. Nobody writes lat/lon. So, your analogy is perfect enough to largely disqualify stylistic arguments. Lat/lon is a data set primarily used by applications. IP addresses are much the same way aside from private networks and experimentation. If you need to describe a private space in IPv6 you have link local addresses that begin with fe80. Modern routing tables are primarily defined by dynamic protocols, such as OSPF. If you really need to express a static IP address directly, such as for remote access to a switch, the IP address will be provided to you. This is why Cisco now requires Python for the CCNP.

StartupTree 6y ago

I feel the same. Nice analogy, going to use it.

ancarda 6y ago

To extend this analogy a bit... wouldn't 'street addresses' be DNS and lat/long coordinates be IP addresses? Can you elaborate a bit? Where do you find frustration with IPv6? I've been using IPv6 for probably close to 10 years now, and I can't say it's been frustrating

_rs 6y ago
As someone who thinks they are pretty savvy with "network stuff", I find the whole thing daunting. But my ISP also doesn't support IPv6 yet either, so I have no easy way (or need) to experiment with it yet.
- ancarda 6y ago
  Years ago I used to have an IPv6 tunnel provided by SixXS. That let me get my feet wet by moving to v6 capable hosting and being able to send traffic to my website over the SixXS tunnel. At this point, though, you may be able to find an IPv6 capable ISP and just switch to them. Your phone might also have IPv6 too, especially if it's 4G/LTE. Any amount of exposure is better than none. If you're using AWS, I can help you setup IPv6 in your VPC and use it with EC2 which can let you get some first hand experience. My email is in my profile if you want to take me up on that offer.

dstick 6y ago

Isn’t that what DNS is for? I get that 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 is easier to remember than an IPv6 address. But once you use 82.54.132.87 addresses - is it really that different from either saving an IPv6 in your ssh config file, or resolving it with a domain name?

austincheney 6y ago

That's a good analogy. Nobody writes lat/lon. So, your analogy is perfect enough to largely disqualify stylistic arguments. Lat/lon is a data set primarily used by applications. IP addresses are much the same way aside from private networks and experimentation. If you need to describe a private space in IPv6 you have link local addresses that begin with fe80. Modern routing tables are primarily defined by dynamic protocols, such as OSPF. If you really need to express a static IP address directly, such as for remote access to a switch, the IP address will be provided to you. This is why Cisco now requires Python for the CCNP.