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Germany is usually even more behind, and TV broadcasts and movies are horribly dubbed versions. I'd gladly pay three to five times as much for Netflix as it cos

by mhd 16y ago

Germany is usually even more behind, and TV broadcasts and movies are horribly dubbed versions. I'd gladly pay three to five times as much for Netflix as it costs in the US if it were available...

simias 16y ago
Ditto for France. I assume it's mostly true for all european countries, with maybe the exception of the UK? At least they probably don't have the dubbing issue... Also, we do have the playstation store (well... used to) but all the movies there are dubbed and we can't get the original version (with or without subtitles). I'll stick with bittorent for now...
kahawe 16y ago
And a lot of videos on youtube are blocked as well and you get that "Sorry, not available in your country" link. I always cringe hard and scream inside when I see that since I am trying to view a link online on a website so it should not make ANY difference which country I am coming from. Please keep your pre-historic distribution and business model out of the web!!! Doing something like that should just be banned by law.
- _delirium 16y ago
  That was really annoying to me even as an American as well (though I currently live in Denmark). When I embed Youtube videos in things like blog posts, I want to know that all my readers can view them, not just me, but Youtube won't tell me which videos are region-restricted. I ended up having to use a proxy in another country to test for myself, so I could avoid unknowingly embedding US-only videos.
  - chokma 16y ago
    And even if the content is available today, that does not mean it will be available tomorrow. Recently I found a new music video posted in the official channel of a record distribution company (nuclearblast), which a couple of days later was blocked because one of the big music labels intervened. By now, they seem to have resolved their differences and the video is available again here - but for how long?
  - ordinary 16y ago
    I'm genuinely curious why they would refuse to make that information easily accessible. Thoughts?
    - mhd 16y ago
      International copyright laws are a bit of a mess.Also, in lots of countries you have to pay a fee if you're "performing" publicly. And according to some agencies, Youtube videos do count as such. If I remember correctly, one such agency, the German GEMA wanted to collect 12 Euro cents each time a major label video was watched on youtube.
      - kahawe 16y ago
        > the German GEMA Another thing that should be against the law... Even if I only have an internet access at my home, no TV and no radio, I still have to pay a quarterly "licence fee" (see http://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/licencefee/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/licencefee/) because certain public stations have a website and could offer certain TV or radio programs on their website.
        CrazedGeek 16y ago
        Are you sure you have to pay the license fee? http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/what-if-a-tv-licence-is-not-needed-top12/ http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/wh... seems to suggest otherwise.
        kahawe 16y ago
        Sorry, this was mis-leading... I was actually talking about the German GEMA rules and only used the BBC website as an example for "license fee" since I am not sure this is the correct translation for what the German GEMA and that "tax on radio and tv" is all about and I doubt anything like that exists in the USA.
        16y ago
Nate75Sanders 16y ago
If you're willing to pay that much, sounds like you just need to grab a $20/month server in the US and use it as a VPN endpoint, then use whatever services in the US that you like.
- asymmetric 16y ago
  For Netflix, he'd also need a US credit card.
  - Nate75Sanders 16y ago
    Ah, didn't realize that. Maybe gifting or something would work.
    - danieldk 16y ago
      The better alternative is iTunes. You don't need a VPN, since Apple is not blocking based on IP address. You'll only need a US address (I am at Starbucks pretty much all day) and a US iTunes gift card (easy to get by), and you are settled. It's a grey area, but MAFIAA should prefer it over piracy ;).
      - mauriciob 16y ago
        It is illegal in pretty much every country (US included) to give fake information. If you don't own/rent a place in the US, you shouldn't inform it.
      - thirdsun 16y ago
        It certainly isn't complicated but compared to starting a bittorrent client it seems like a lot of hassle.
      - rmc 16y ago
        So essentially it is is legal grey area to pay for things. This is an absurd situation.
  - 16y ago

by mhd 16y ago

Germany is usually even more behind, and TV broadcasts and movies are horribly dubbed versions. I'd gladly pay three to five times as much for Netflix as it costs in the US if it were available...

simias 16y ago

Ditto for France. I assume it's mostly true for all european countries, with maybe the exception of the UK? At least they probably don't have the dubbing issue... Also, we do have the playstation store (well... used to) but all the movies there are dubbed and we can't get the original version (with or without subtitles). I'll stick with bittorent for now...

kahawe 16y ago

And a lot of videos on youtube are blocked as well and you get that "Sorry, not available in your country" link. I always cringe hard and scream inside when I see that since I am trying to view a link online on a website so it should not make ANY difference which country I am coming from. Please keep your pre-historic distribution and business model out of the web!!! Doing something like that should just be banned by law.

_delirium 16y ago
That was really annoying to me even as an American as well (though I currently live in Denmark). When I embed Youtube videos in things like blog posts, I want to know that all my readers can view them, not just me, but Youtube won't tell me which videos are region-restricted. I ended up having to use a proxy in another country to test for myself, so I could avoid unknowingly embedding US-only videos.
- chokma 16y ago
  And even if the content is available today, that does not mean it will be available tomorrow. Recently I found a new music video posted in the official channel of a record distribution company (nuclearblast), which a couple of days later was blocked because one of the big music labels intervened. By now, they seem to have resolved their differences and the video is available again here - but for how long?
- ordinary 16y ago
  I'm genuinely curious why they would refuse to make that information easily accessible. Thoughts?
  - mhd 16y ago
    International copyright laws are a bit of a mess.Also, in lots of countries you have to pay a fee if you're "performing" publicly. And according to some agencies, Youtube videos do count as such. If I remember correctly, one such agency, the German GEMA wanted to collect 12 Euro cents each time a major label video was watched on youtube.
    - kahawe 16y ago
      > the German GEMA Another thing that should be against the law... Even if I only have an internet access at my home, no TV and no radio, I still have to pay a quarterly "licence fee" (see http://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/licencefee/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/licencefee/) because certain public stations have a website and could offer certain TV or radio programs on their website.
      - CrazedGeek 16y ago
        Are you sure you have to pay the license fee? http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/what-if-a-tv-licence-is-not-needed-top12/ http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/topics/wh... seems to suggest otherwise.
        kahawe 16y ago
        Sorry, this was mis-leading... I was actually talking about the German GEMA rules and only used the BBC website as an example for "license fee" since I am not sure this is the correct translation for what the German GEMA and that "tax on radio and tv" is all about and I doubt anything like that exists in the USA.
        16y ago

Nate75Sanders 16y ago

If you're willing to pay that much, sounds like you just need to grab a $20/month server in the US and use it as a VPN endpoint, then use whatever services in the US that you like.

asymmetric 16y ago
For Netflix, he'd also need a US credit card.
- Nate75Sanders 16y ago
  Ah, didn't realize that. Maybe gifting or something would work.
  - danieldk 16y ago
    The better alternative is iTunes. You don't need a VPN, since Apple is not blocking based on IP address. You'll only need a US address (I am at Starbucks pretty much all day) and a US iTunes gift card (easy to get by), and you are settled. It's a grey area, but MAFIAA should prefer it over piracy ;).
    - mauriciob 16y ago
      It is illegal in pretty much every country (US included) to give fake information. If you don't own/rent a place in the US, you shouldn't inform it.
    - thirdsun 16y ago
      It certainly isn't complicated but compared to starting a bittorrent client it seems like a lot of hassle.
    - rmc 16y ago
      So essentially it is is legal grey area to pay for things. This is an absurd situation.
- 16y ago