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So by your number, only 978 death last week ? Even if its true that is still such a low number and probably skewed towards old people. With this number you wan
by matz1 6y ago
So by your number, only 978 death last week ? Even if its true that is still such a low number and probably skewed towards old people.
With this number you want to have shutdown business, restrict business, prevent gathering, implement all those silly safety theatre for the rest of population? Yeah very very not worth it.
- Shared404 6y ago978 deaths is equivalent to 1/18 of the entire year to date. The rate is increasing, and there's only one way to stop it. Edit: And again, this number is with absolutely no comorbidities. Had diabetes for your whole life? not counted. Broke your arm? not counted. High blood pressure? not counted. Plenty of people who would've lived decades more are not included in this number. > With this number you want to have... > shutdown business Nope. I want masks and social distancing. I recognize that businesses need to be open. Heck, I'm still working. > restrict business Depending on your point of view, yes. Meaning that I think social distancing should be practised at all businesses, and people should decide themselves not to go to businesses that they don't have to. Note, this is "Free market" restriction, not government mandated. > prevent gathering Not precisely. I would say don't gather with people from outside of your region, and social distance when you do gather with people inside your region. > safety theatre Still waiting on a source for this, assuming you are talking about masks. I haven't said anything about any measures other than the above, and masks to point.
- matz1 6y ago>978 deaths is equivalent to 1/18 of the entire year to date. The rate is increasing, and there's only one way to stop it. Its still such a low number. There is no conclusive evidence that mask will reduce the death and even if wearing mask will avoid those 978 death, it still not worth it. Don't get me wrong, reducing death is good and I will support it but not if it require forced mask/lockdown. That being said, I can support voluntary mask recommendation though.
- Shared404 6y ago> Its still such a low number. Again, there are much more than this that should be attributed to covid, these are just the most perfectly healthy people who still died, despite medical care. > There is no conclusive evidence that mask will reduce the death Have you looked at any other countries handling of the pandemic? > and even if wearing mask will avoid those 978 death, it still not worth it Again. Much more than 978 deaths. > That being said, I can support voluntary mask recommendation though. How do you feel about businesses requiring masks for entry?
- matz1 6y ago> these are just the most perfectly healthy people who still died, despite medical care Of course, it could still happen but the chance are very low, flu still kills thousand of people every year, despite of vaccine. >Have you looked at any other countries handling of the pandemic? at least one country I know doesn't have mask mandate: sweeden. not a country but Florida doesn't have statewide mask mandate and they are handling it very well (in my opinion). Went there for a week this past few months, so much better than other state. I would consider moving there. >Again. Much more than 978 deaths. How much more ? Whats the evidence that those 978 is avoidable because of mask ? >How do you feel about businesses requiring masks for entry? I think its silly but their business their rule as long as I can choose other business that doesn't require mask or if I have business I can choose to not requiring mask.
- Shared404 6y ago> How much more ? This seems like a good method of determining this [0]. > Whats the evidence that those 978 is avoidable because of mask ? Physics, New Zealand, Japan, most other countries. > How much more ? This seems like a good method of determining this [0]. > as long as I can choose other business that doesn't require mask or if I have business I can choose to not requiring mask. So what if all businesses require masks? [0] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm