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The vaping issue was related to Vitamin E in THC vaping and was not related to vaping in general. The Vitamin E was being vaporized and inhaled directly into t

by rswail 6y ago

The vaping issue was related to Vitamin E in THC vaping and was not related to vaping in general. The Vitamin E was being vaporized and inhaled directly into the lungs, which caused the problems. Inhalation of Vitamin E into the lungs is a known cause of lung disease symptoms. See https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/s... There's no evidence that EVALI is related to COVID-19 or SARS-cov-2. The vaping "thing" hasn't just come and disappeared. The CDC has stopped reporting on it. See https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30360-X/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2... So that correlation is not causation, EVALI is not COVID-19. EVALI is not related to the vaping pens or where they originated. The disease was reported where people were using THC cartridges that were diluted with Vitamin E, which is primarily the US.

therealx 6y ago
I know vitamine E acetate is a scourage in the vaping community, but I was under the impression that outbreak was a distincly different thing, at a different time. Although the uninteresting answer is often true, I do dislike that people refuse to entertain anything remotely fringe. Some of the declassified CIA documents stated that they intentionally furthered this attitude as much as they could, as it allowed them to make many of thier projects dissappear. What is the most promising theory of origin? A 5-10min search didn't help. The lab theory is of course the most fun, but not the most probable. The fact that they were working on similar diseases, the lab was newish, and the country itself isn't exactly well known for IP security make me not discredit it as fast as I normally would. The animal->human route via food (or less likely, bites/other contamination) seems to be most likely. It's happened plenty of times in the past, and given the SES level of the area and cultural norms, it could have definitely happened. The rest of the ideas seem like a long tail where all of them have fairly obvious "gotchas" that make typing them out a waste, but I'd love to hear what other people think.

by rswail 6y ago

therealx 6y ago

I know vitamine E acetate is a scourage in the vaping community, but I was under the impression that outbreak was a distincly different thing, at a different time. Although the uninteresting answer is often true, I do dislike that people refuse to entertain anything remotely fringe. Some of the declassified CIA documents stated that they intentionally furthered this attitude as much as they could, as it allowed them to make many of thier projects dissappear. What is the most promising theory of origin? A 5-10min search didn't help. The lab theory is of course the most fun, but not the most probable. The fact that they were working on similar diseases, the lab was newish, and the country itself isn't exactly well known for IP security make me not discredit it as fast as I normally would. The animal->human route via food (or less likely, bites/other contamination) seems to be most likely. It's happened plenty of times in the past, and given the SES level of the area and cultural norms, it could have definitely happened. The rest of the ideas seem like a long tail where all of them have fairly obvious "gotchas" that make typing them out a waste, but I'd love to hear what other people think.