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I don’t like the word bothsidesism because it implies that in reality only one side is the bad actor. That is a massive implication considering how casually it’

I don’t like the word bothsidesism because it implies that in reality only one side is the bad actor. That is a massive implication considering how casually it’s thrown around. Moreover, it’s used like an accusation. Accusing people of acknowledging that things probably aren’t black and white. Full on groupthink.

pii 6y ago
Black and white ;) It's more like 80% / 20%. The disparity is huge, documented, and factual.
- read_if_gay_ 6y ago
  How are you objectively going to document misinformation? How are you even going to assign weights? Voter fraud is 100 points for Trump, the Hunter story is 50 points for the Dems, etc..? The thing is that if you ask side X they’ll say it’s 80/20 for side Y and vice versa. Neither should be so confident that they’re right. And pointing that out is now called bothsidesism. The lengths people go to to avoid cognitive dissonance is beyond ridiculous.
hackyhacky 6y ago
Not all bad actors are equally bad. Hillary wasn't perfect. People didn't like her, and we got Trump. The Weimar Republic was corrupt and ineffective. The Third Reich was corrupt and extremely effective. Democracy is the history of choosing the least bad. If you consider all bads to be the same, you are not a responsible voter.
- read_if_gay_ 6y ago
  > Democracy is the history of choosing the least bad. Ok, so bothsidesism is justified since you acknowledge both sides are bad? > If you consider all bads to be the same, you are not a responsible voter. It’s a strawman to claim both sides are exactly the same level of bad. That’s not what GP was saying.
MrMan 6y ago
People who want to shoot me for being "liberal" are not as good as people who don't want to shoot me
- read_if_gay_ 6y ago
  I don’t think I understand. Are you basically saying that all Republicans literally want to kill you?

pii 6y ago

Black and white ;) It's more like 80% / 20%. The disparity is huge, documented, and factual.

read_if_gay_ 6y ago
How are you objectively going to document misinformation? How are you even going to assign weights? Voter fraud is 100 points for Trump, the Hunter story is 50 points for the Dems, etc..? The thing is that if you ask side X they’ll say it’s 80/20 for side Y and vice versa. Neither should be so confident that they’re right. And pointing that out is now called bothsidesism. The lengths people go to to avoid cognitive dissonance is beyond ridiculous.

hackyhacky 6y ago

Not all bad actors are equally bad. Hillary wasn't perfect. People didn't like her, and we got Trump. The Weimar Republic was corrupt and ineffective. The Third Reich was corrupt and extremely effective. Democracy is the history of choosing the least bad. If you consider all bads to be the same, you are not a responsible voter.

read_if_gay_ 6y ago
> Democracy is the history of choosing the least bad. Ok, so bothsidesism is justified since you acknowledge both sides are bad? > If you consider all bads to be the same, you are not a responsible voter. It’s a strawman to claim both sides are exactly the same level of bad. That’s not what GP was saying.

MrMan 6y ago

People who want to shoot me for being "liberal" are not as good as people who don't want to shoot me

read_if_gay_ 6y ago
I don’t think I understand. Are you basically saying that all Republicans literally want to kill you?